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Re: Just an observation
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2020, 12:03:20 PM »
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Yes they certainly would!

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Re: Just an observation
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2020, 12:45:18 PM »
Lusche: Have you ever computed the median kph?

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I could do that later for a couple of random tours from different epochs of AH.
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Re: Just an observation
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2020, 03:21:01 PM »
Average k/h in fighter mode for all tours I have data on:





Average and median k/h for the November tour of selected years (except for 2020, September was used instead):




Data used: Scores of all pilot ID's with at least one kill or death in a tour.
Avg = (sum of all kills in fighter mode in the arena) / (total time spent in fighter mode for all pilots)
Median=median of k/h from the pilot scores
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Re: Just an observation
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2020, 03:43:58 PM »
Is this why some of you mainly play this game? for kills per hour? like it isn't worth your time if you don't get so many kills per hour? not worth the subscription price?

There are more than a few of the players from AH II coming back into the game. I see new players every day in the TA and the MA. 40% of those are sticking around INMO.
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Re: Just an observation
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2020, 03:47:38 PM »
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Re: Just an observation
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2020, 03:48:44 PM »
Is this why some of you mainly play this game? for kills per hour? like it isn't worth your time if you don't get so many kills per hour? not worth the subscription price?

There are more than a few of the players from AH II coming back into the game. I see new players every day in the TA and the MA. 40% of those are sticking around INMO.

A decent amount of people, about all they ask for is some kind of active air battle on one of their fronts while they're on.  K/H when you fly mostly fighter is believed to be an indicator of that.

Lusche's graph looks to me pretty much like it follows population.  Although it's interesting how low the median is.  That says to me there were relatively few people pulling the average up with large numbers of kills.

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Re: Just an observation
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2020, 04:03:08 PM »
I don't think anybody is looking at his numbers and says "Oh, my k/h is only x.xx, I quit!".
People quit because of not having enough fun, which can have various reasons of which 'not enough action' may be one of the more important ones. (And yes, players also quit for financial reasons or lack of time or old age, but that's not within the scope of this thread)

Although it's interesting how low the median is.  That says to me there were relatively few people pulling the average up with large numbers of kills.

But it's interesting to see that the ratio of (AVG/MED) has become smaller over the years, which is indicative of a more homogenous population than ever before (many older players, few newcomers).
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Re: Just an observation
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2020, 04:05:26 PM »
Lusche's graph looks to me pretty much like it follows population. 


Population soared high 2007-2009, you can't really see that in the AVG graph
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Re: Just an observation
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2020, 04:09:37 PM »
But it's interesting to see that the ratio of (AVG/MED) has become smaller over the years, which is indicative of a more homogenous population than ever before (many older players, few newcomers).

Sounds pretty plausible to me.


Population soared high 2007-2009, you can't really see that in the AVG graph

Ah.  I just saw the spike close to there and thought that was it.  Didn't realize it was before the highest pop years.

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Re: Just an observation
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2020, 04:16:45 PM »
Hey Lusche... another nice chart. How about a frozen margarita with salt on top.   :D

Oh wait...... no salt no salt.    :confused:
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Re: Just an observation
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2020, 04:32:18 PM »
I'd think the same chart graphing only the top 150 would be a better representation of things.  But you'd need more points as one tour may include crap maps for the whole month.
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Re: Just an observation
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2020, 07:22:00 PM »
Never looked at my K/H before, but just checked it.  Was surprised to find I was ranked 18 at 10.26 K/H.  But, other than scenario type events,  I usually play maybe half an hour to a couple hours most days, and almost exclusively fly fighters looking for good fights.

But to get to your point, I think finding good action quickly would surely be a plus, especially with keeping new players.

Just to set the  record straight.....Not being used to studying these stats, I think I pulled up atypical info...looked at it again, for Nov Melee was more like about 4 for me with a rank of about 200..closer to what I'd expect for this old guy  .... :old:

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Re: Just an observation
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2020, 07:56:20 PM »
Is this why some of you mainly play this game? for kills per hour? like it isn't worth your time if you don't get so many kills per hour? not worth the subscription price?

There are more than a few of the players from AH II coming back into the game. I see new players every day in the TA and the MA. 40% of those are sticking around INMO.

I really dont think you see the point he is trying to make.  Player vs player action runs parallel to the kills per hour stat.  The way to game is heading = the wrong way.  People arent going to come here and pay 14.95 to steal a maproom in a largely vacant map.

Smaller maps, or 2 countries on larger ones.

ENY values, sideswitch timer, and dusk to dawn, and town resupply are a few other negative factors.


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Re: Just an observation
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2020, 09:00:47 PM »
I really dont think you see the point he is trying to make.  Player vs player action runs parallel to the kills per hour stat.  The way to game is heading = the wrong way.  People arent going to come here and pay 14.95 to steal a maproom in a largely vacant map.

Smaller maps, or 2 countries on larger ones.

ENY values, sideswitch timer, and dusk to dawn, and town resupply are a few other negative factors.

player versus players means there's always gonna be those who kill a lot and those who die a lot.  to raise the average it means there will be quite a few who hardly get kills.

food for thought.  you think players who join look at stats and say, naw average kills per hour is bad, i quit. or they think, damn I couldnt take off after 10 tries, forget this game.


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Re: Just an observation
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2020, 09:28:11 PM »
player versus players means there's always gonna be those who kill a lot and those who die a lot.  to raise the average it means there will be quite a few who hardly get kills.

food for thought.  you think players who join look at stats and say, naw average kills per hour is bad, i quit. or they think, damn I couldnt take off after 10 tries, forget this game.


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FORGET THE STATS!!!!  All he is saying is he use to get more kills per hour of play than he does now, only meaning he either has a hard time finding fights or many players have gotten much better and are killing him more often  :noid

New players arent leaving because their stats suck, they are leaving because it takes too long to get a kill! Either they are spending too much time finding a fight (boring), of the are getting their a s s e s handed to them instantly. (frustrating)

If a way was found for new player to get into action quicker, of get lucky enough to get a few quick kills diving through a large furball  it would more than likely help keep those players in the game.