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« Reply #75 on: December 20, 2020, 09:08:11 PM »
They took over the airports.

We need more airports.

Close.

We should get the windmill cancer speech too!

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« Reply #76 on: December 21, 2020, 12:15:18 AM »
https://youtu.be/A2SFo3TkvhM

Lol. I had forgotten that line. ". . . [the Continental Army] rammed the ramparts, took over the airports." ". . . seized victory from Cornwallis of Yorktown."

It was just so utterly wrong. Poor guy was told what to say, but did not spend enough time studying and remembering what to say. No wonder he always improvised everything.
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« Reply #77 on: December 21, 2020, 01:02:43 AM »
They took over the airports.

We need more airports.

Close.

We should get the windmill cancer speech too!

Oh boy, that one is one of my favorites. "I never understood wind, yet I know windmills very much. I've studied it better than anybody. I know it's very expensive. They're made in China and Germany, mostly. Very few made here, almost none."

Bear in mind that he knows windmills very much and has studied it better than anybody. A simple Google search will reveal these figures, which I grant you, I have not cross-referenced with a multitude of sources. Also, it comes from the Marxist, Leftist Wikipedia.



He goes on to teach us that the ". . . world is tiny compared to the universe. So, tremendous, tremendous amounts of fumes and everything, you talk about the carbon footprint, fumes are spewing into the air, right? Spewing. Whether it's in China, Germany, it's going into the air; it's our air, their air, everything, right?"

Essentially, what I gather here is that his thesis is that wind turbines are tremendously polluting and expensive. I am not an environmental scientist, nor am I a conservationist. However, these things do not use fossil fuels nor is there the use of combustion. Maybe they leak now and then? I assume that is possible a short can cause a fire here and there? But, overall I would say that this is probably not a very founded thesis.

He makes some good points about the depreciation of real estate as it applies to windmills, as one does. "So, they make these things and then they put them up and if you own a house within vision of some of these monsters, you're house is worth 50% of the price. They're noisy, they kill the birds."

I remember rolling through the Pocono Mountains on my way to upstate NY a few years ago and, having never seen the Pocono Mountains, thoroughly enjoyed the scenery. But, there were these windmills at the mountain tops and on every ridge. This went on for 40 miles it seemed. It did take away from the scenery, but it was also comforting knowing that maybe we can keep those trees and mountains around a while because of said "monsters." But, I am pro-environment.

Ah, the birds. He went a bit deep here, I believe. "They're noisy, they kill the birds. You want to see a [bird] graveyard? You just go. Take a look. A bird graveyard? Go under a windmill some day. You'll see more birds ever than you've ever seen in your life. You know, in California they were killing the bald eagle. If you shoot a bald eagle, they want to put you in jail for ten years. A windmill will kill many bald eagles, it's true. And you know what? After a certain number, they make you turn the windmill off, that's true by the way. This is. They make you turn it off after you. And yet if you killed one, they put you in jail, that's okay. But, why is it okay for these windmills to destroy the bird population?"

On bird population destruction, he is correct. Windmills account for an estimated 140k to 500k birds each year (US Fish and Wildlife Service). Domesticated cats in the United States alone in 2013 killed an estimated 3.7 billion birds (Smithsonian Biology Institute and US Fish and Wildlife Service). Even if that number is 300% exaggerated, which I have no reason to believe, that is a billion birds. To put that in perspective, windmills account for .05% of the bird deaths that cats are responsible for each year in the United States.



All I have done here is take exactly what the president said and lazily looked for sources and facts to back those claims. Pretty simple academics.





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« Reply #78 on: December 21, 2020, 02:00:40 AM »
He's probably waiting for them to punch themselves tired or, he's waiting to add to the provocateur's victims to overstep their bounds for a collective board vacation.  :old:

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« Reply #79 on: December 21, 2020, 06:44:27 AM »
Oh boy, that one is one of my favorites. "I never understood wind, yet I know windmills very much. I've studied it better than anybody. I know it's very expensive. They're made in China and Germany, mostly. Very few made here, almost none."

Bear in mind that he knows windmills very much and has studied it better than anybody. A simple Google search will reveal these figures, which I grant you, I have not cross-referenced with a multitude of sources. Also, it comes from the Marxist, Leftist Wikipedia.

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He goes on to teach us that the ". . . world is tiny compared to the universe. So, tremendous, tremendous amounts of fumes and everything, you talk about the carbon footprint, fumes are spewing into the air, right? Spewing. Whether it's in China, Germany, it's going into the air; it's our air, their air, everything, right?"

Essentially, what I gather here is that his thesis is that wind turbines are tremendously polluting and expensive. I am not an environmental scientist, nor am I a conservationist. However, these things do not use fossil fuels nor is there the use of combustion. Maybe they leak now and then? I assume that is possible a short can cause a fire here and there? But, overall I would say that this is probably not a very founded thesis.

He makes some good points about the depreciation of real estate as it applies to windmills, as one does. "So, they make these things and then they put them up and if you own a house within vision of some of these monsters, you're house is worth 50% of the price. They're noisy, they kill the birds."

I remember rolling through the Pocono Mountains on my way to upstate NY a few years ago and, having never seen the Pocono Mountains, thoroughly enjoyed the scenery. But, there were these windmills at the mountain tops and on every ridge. This went on for 40 miles it seemed. It did take away from the scenery, but it was also comforting knowing that maybe we can keep those trees and mountains around a while because of said "monsters." But, I am pro-environment.

Ah, the birds. He went a bit deep here, I believe. "They're noisy, they kill the birds. You want to see a [bird] graveyard? You just go. Take a look. A bird graveyard? Go under a windmill some day. You'll see more birds ever than you've ever seen in your life. You know, in California they were killing the bald eagle. If you shoot a bald eagle, they want to put you in jail for ten years. A windmill will kill many bald eagles, it's true. And you know what? After a certain number, they make you turn the windmill off, that's true by the way. This is. They make you turn it off after you. And yet if you killed one, they put you in jail, that's okay. But, why is it okay for these windmills to destroy the bird population?"

On bird population destruction, he is correct. Windmills account for an estimated 140k to 500k birds each year (US Fish and Wildlife Service). Domesticated cats in the United States alone in 2013 killed an estimated 3.7 billion birds (Smithsonian Biology Institute and US Fish and Wildlife Service). Even if that number is 300% exaggerated, which I have no reason to believe, that is a billion birds. To put that in perspective, windmills account for .05% of the bird deaths that cats are responsible for each year in the United States.



All I have done here is take exactly what the president said and lazily looked for sources and facts to back those claims. Pretty simple academics.





Pretty funny stuff. But not a lie and no cancer talk. Did Joe lie to us again?

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« Reply #80 on: December 21, 2020, 06:52:24 AM »
And sadly he is still the better option over sleepy creepy corrupt joe and the jamican sleeze

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Re: For Trump Lovers
« Reply #81 on: December 21, 2020, 07:27:14 AM »
I'm pretty sure her jamaican father distanced his family from her political posturing that did not match with family values.

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« Reply #82 on: December 21, 2020, 07:31:24 AM »
Pretty funny stuff. But not a lie and no cancer talk. Did Joe lie to us again?


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Re: For Trump Lovers
« Reply #83 on: December 21, 2020, 07:38:34 AM »


Got it. "You tell me the noise causes cancer"

Yep joe lied again.

Grab, twist, spit.  Pretty typical of the new norm.

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« Reply #84 on: December 21, 2020, 07:42:23 AM »
Got it. "You tell me the noise causes cancer"

Yep joe lied again.

Grab, twist, spit.  Pretty typical of the new norm.

Moronic Joe hate seems your 'typical new norm.' But if it soothes your booboo then rub it in deeply.  :aok

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Re: For Trump Lovers
« Reply #85 on: December 21, 2020, 07:44:54 AM »
Are we done comparing quotes?

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« Reply #86 on: December 21, 2020, 07:47:31 AM »
Are we done comparing quotes?

Were we ever doing that to begin with? You claimed (inferred) something. I proved you wrong. You insist you're right. Rinse. Repeat.

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« Reply #87 on: December 21, 2020, 07:55:09 AM »
You just posted what Joe referenced.  Both statements in iowa were lies.

One page earlier you boasted those lies.

How can we progress if you grab your fake news and run?


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« Reply #88 on: December 21, 2020, 07:59:25 AM »
You just posted what Joe referenced.  Both statements in iowa were lies.

One page earlier you boasted those lies.

How can we progress if you grab your fake news and run?

Are you going to stomp your feet at this point and insist that everything Trump has been recorded saying is 'fake news' then whimper we can't 'progress' because it's my fault you feel that way?

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« Reply #89 on: December 21, 2020, 08:11:37 AM »
Seriously, you guys...
You should really be discussing the elephant in the room; lack of decent leadership contenders.

A mahoosive country with so many choices in nearly everything, so many great people and yet these are the clowns rising to run at the top. Why is there such a lack of choice in American Politics? Why are the choices utter morons I wouldn't trust to organise a piss-up in a brewery?
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