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Offline Vraciu

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Re: The Milk Run Special
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2021, 10:17:53 AM »
The middle one looks best but it trends purple a slight bit. 

You can pull the color out and the metal effect will remain.   It will look weird to your eyes at first but it's a better effect. 

Did desaturation not work?
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Re: The Milk Run Special
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2021, 10:25:31 AM »
I'm talking VERY slight purple.  A percent or two at most probably.
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Re: The Milk Run Special
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2021, 10:53:14 AM »
Desaturation just moves the red, green and blue levels of a colour closer together, which amounts to the same thing as I have done above. So if I was to desaturate the colour 100% it would end up as about RGB 137/137/137 but this would look very purple in the game. I think I'll stick with the last colour I made, as the difference between it and the second one is so small anyway.

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Re: The Milk Run Special
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2021, 11:22:08 AM »
We may have different baked in effects. 

The second one is best but still leans purple.
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Re: The Milk Run Special
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2021, 11:30:49 AM »
Let me try to illustrate my point.   

The top Mustang (ZM*D, "Pride of the 'Bluegrass") has the blue desaturated out of the metal.   That blue can still be seen in 5M*K ("Lil' Margaret") at bottom.   However, since the markings are also blue your eye doesn't see it as much on its own so I left it. 

Contrast the Mustang at top (ZM*D) with your B-26. The purple/blue on the bomber is evident in comparison.

(I probably still need to take more blue out of the tail on ZM*D.).









I hope this helps.   :salute

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Re: The Milk Run Special
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2021, 01:44:24 AM »
I agree that the above screenshot of my B-26 is too purple and I said that in the post. But that's not the colour I am going with, the third screenshot with the in-between colour is.

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Re: The Milk Run Special
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2021, 08:09:29 AM »
I agree that the above screenshot of my B-26 is too purple and I said that in the post. But that's not the colour I am going with, the third screenshot with the in-between colour is.



It's still too blue.  Perhaps I got screwed up on which one you were using.   They all have color that should come out regardless.   I realize it's a PITA but the skin will benefit.

Compare these two.   The blue in the Marauder is stark compared to an almost neutral metal.





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Re: The Milk Run Special
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2021, 07:27:10 AM »
Excellent work! Hope to put this guy through the wringer in special events! <S>
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Re: The Milk Run Special
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2021, 10:36:33 AM »
For this version of the metal I desaturated the base aluminium colour 100%. That turned the overall effect purple in the game so I also desaturated the general brown weathering effects so they were grey too.



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Re: The Milk Run Special
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2021, 11:04:23 AM »
That is a lot better to my eye.   

I don't think a touch of blue is bad generally speaking, just not like before.    But this is much more neutral.

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Re: The Milk Run Special
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2021, 11:58:30 AM »
It looks good, Greebo. But, in my opinion, this version is leaning too close to silver paint instead of bare metal.

It might benefit from using a darker shade on the P and S maps so spread out the highlight some more. I think that will make it look more like metal.
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Re: The Milk Run Special
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2021, 02:05:14 PM »
My metal on the S map is grayscale darkened 20%.

For the P map I grayscale then negative image and darken 10-20% multiple times until I get the effect I want. 

I don't know how the P map behaves on a large map like a bomber though.
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Re: The Milk Run Special
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2021, 02:34:11 PM »
Yeah, I just remembered, the S map should be light (which it probably already is), but the P map should be dark. He needs a bright and wide highlight.
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Re: The Milk Run Special
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2021, 02:36:34 PM »
I'd have to agree with Devil, as she has more of that "painted" look rather than bare metal.  But you appear to be on the right track, as she is looking better than your first go which had that blue hue to her.  :aok
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Re: The Milk Run Special
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2021, 03:51:48 AM »
Added a hint of blue back to the base metal colour, darkened the metal on the power map and lightened it on the specularity map.



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