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Offline Oldman731

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Re: DCS Apache
« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2022, 08:44:37 PM »
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Re: DCS Apache
« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2022, 09:37:40 PM »
They said it's the first of the Phantom family and they plan to do a naval version after. Looking forward to it!

Also waiting patiently for the Apache release...
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Re: DCS Apache
« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2022, 05:44:34 PM »
BTW, if you want to get ready for the Apache by getting used to at least one model of the DCS helicopter physics, the new Blackhawk mod is a free download and of course DCS World is free.

https://www.skywardfm.com/post/showcase-dcsworld-uh60l-black-hawk-mod

Not an Apache, but if you have never flown any of the other DCS helicopters, it might be helpful to at least get a basic feel of their rotor FM. 



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Re: DCS Apache
« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2022, 10:45:30 PM »
Also for those waiting for the Apache...

If you have Arma III, there is a descent Apache mod:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1351428303
https://ah-64d-apache-official-project.github.io/index.html

I can't vouch for the sophistication of the FM, but it looks like it has an accurate cockpit and functioning MDP with clickable buttons and accurate mode pages (switchology/symbology).  I plan to try that for cockpit familiarization and systems practice. 

For flight training I am using the Huey in DCS.  The Apache is supposed to be easier to fly because of all the computer assist systems, but I look at it like learning to drive on a standard first.   Learn standard first, then you can drive anything!   Huey is so fat and under-powered, you can't just easily muscle your way out of bad decisions.  And it has so much momentum you have to think two moves ahead or you get behind the curve.  That should build good muscle memory without relying on the the computer to paper-over bad piloting.



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Re: DCS Apache
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2022, 01:14:14 PM »
I run this Apache in Arma 3 you speak of. Allows you to manually start the motor
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Re: DCS Apache
« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2022, 01:46:34 PM »
I run this Apache in Arma 3 you speak of. Allows you to manually start the motor

I got it installed but might not get to play with it until this weekend.

Do the electronics and dash systems seem sufficiently accurate that is might be useful to familiarize before DCS Apache?

For me that would be better training.  I can only sit and read tech manuals for so long with going blind.   :D  I learn best by doing.
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Re: DCS Apache
« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2022, 05:27:17 PM »
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Do the electronics and dash systems seem sufficiently accurate that is might be useful to familiarize before DCS Apache?


Pretty close. I have been reading the manual for the D model Apache. It is a lot.
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Re: DCS Apache
« Reply #52 on: February 01, 2022, 05:54:45 PM »


If you are getting ready for the Apache I can certainly recommend the Huey.  It seems to be the preferred trainer.  And it is a lot of fun to fly even if it is a bit old school.  The Apache will be easier to fly with computer assists, but learn the Huey and you will be even better. Again, like learning to drive on a standard first.

Here is a training mission I made for my own use, based on some initial training feedback I got from some kind gents.  It is designed to break-down and isolate certain skill exercises to drill with.  Each station in the circuit lets you practice a different skill.  Maybe not the day 1 practice.  You first need to get your controls mapped and tuned and get a basic control of hover etc.  The first couple of time you run it I would set invulnerable because that initial hover/taxi drill can leave a lot of chopper parts laying around if you can't maintain fine control. 

Caveat.  I've only been running this on the Huey, but I dropped in other choppers you can select if you own those.  Can't vouch how well it works for the others yet, but I can tweak if need be.

I've found it useful anyway.  Helo are so odd compared to fixed wing.  You have to learn a whole different kind of feel.  I can almost land regularly now.  Well, I can get on the ground and at least pretty close to the spot I pick.   :D






https://www.dropbox.com/s/a3rqwrb6widvbri/HeloTrainingMiz.zip?dl=1

Last update I saw, the hope is maybe a end of Feb date.  (grain of salt, etc...)



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Re: DCS Apache
« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2022, 05:31:58 PM »


Next time they can replace those Mi-8 with Apache.  Then you will be in high cotton.

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Re: DCS Apache
« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2022, 11:47:36 AM »
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Re: DCS Apache
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2022, 12:21:54 PM »
https://youtu.be/npDbZKu15yE


Gettin close

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BTW, for anyone else waiting for the Apache,

You can download the Army manual to start looking at the electronic displays, etc.

https://publicintelligence.net/us-army-apache-longbow-ah-64d-attack-helicopter-operators-manual/

I had asked Youtube helo guru Casmo what in the 1000 page manual I should focus on first to get a head-start start based on his closed testing experience (he is now cleared to talk about).

His rely:
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"Focus on TSD set up and understanding the weapons pages, particularly the hellfire/Laser/LST stuff. "









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Re: DCS Apache
« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2022, 01:56:48 PM »


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Re: DCS Apache
« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2022, 07:01:02 PM »
Just dowloaded 2.7. Gonna learn the P51. Big learning curve on setup.
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Re: DCS Apache
« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2022, 07:09:42 PM »
Just dowloaded 2.7. Gonna learn the P51. Big learning curve on setup.

Not really if the right people show you how its done.

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