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Combat Challenge XXXVII - 10/29
« on: October 27, 2021, 06:06:35 PM »
Combat Challenge XXXVII will take place this Friday, Oct. 29 at 11 PM Eastern (Normal FSO time). Our theater will be the Mediterranean and will back it up to the early days. Please come out and enjoy some of the best fights you will have this month!




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Re: Combat Challenge XXXVII - 10/29
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2021, 09:51:48 AM »
Thoughts about last night.

Well, unfortunately things got off go a rockey start with the ENY. It caused a lot of guys to log off early. Which is kinda lame honestly. It didn't take too long to fix the issue plus the 110s vs p40fs was kinda fun.

The 1000k airspawns actually worked quite well, IMO.

The main issue I saw was the puff ack for the axis was way too far out. I got drilled close to the sector line twice and allies were constantly fighting in ack the whole night.

The axis were ack hugging the entire night to get alt. This was a big issue for me. While I think 1K spawns are great, it kind of defeats the purpose if the teams are going to turn sideways so they can climb to 15k before they enter the fray. Not sure how this can be enforced, but the axis were staying back all night making it very difficult not to get ganged while also flying in a gazillion rounds of puff ack. I don't believe the axis was getting pushed back either. This seemed to be a strategy of some sort, which worked I guess if you look at the overall kills/deaths per each side. In some cases, yes, a team can get pushed back, but we were dead even teams in relatively equal performing planes, though we could have used the D25 for a tad more speed against the C205s. Normally it's the axis pushing the allied back when allied starts low. Instead it was allied getting clobbered by gangs and ack as they stayed back. I dont think most of the axis ever crossed the sector like until about 12:30 TBH. That was really my biggest issue.

All in all, probably not the best CC we've ever had. The fights were still pretty fun though and was still better than the fights in the MA. Still glad we are able to have this event as I think its one of the most fun events.

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Re: Combat Challenge XXXVII - 10/29
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2021, 02:54:43 PM »
While I think 1K spawns are great, it kind of defeats the purpose if the teams are going to turn sideways so they can climb to 15k before they enter the fray. Not sure how this can be enforced

It can be enforced with a 100 MPH downdraft at 10k.

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Re: Combat Challenge XXXVII - 10/29
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2021, 03:33:37 PM »
It can be enforced with a 100 MPH downdraft at 10k.

I like that idea.
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Re: Combat Challenge XXXVII - 10/29
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2021, 05:53:47 PM »
Some of the fun action in this chaotic event of furball'n

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Re: Combat Challenge XXXVII - 10/29
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2021, 06:14:22 PM »
Some footage from the Allied side here :), what fun that was!

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Re: Combat Challenge XXXVII - 10/29
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2021, 09:44:30 PM »
DLO was waxin some arses last night.
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Re: Combat Challenge XXXVII - 10/29
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2021, 09:20:58 AM »
Thoughts about last night.

Well, unfortunately things got off go a rockey start with the ENY. It caused a lot of guys to log off early. Which is kinda lame honestly. It didn't take too long to fix the issue plus the 110s vs p40fs was kinda fun.

The 1000k airspawns actually worked quite well, IMO.

The main issue I saw was the puff ack for the axis was way too far out. I got drilled close to the sector line twice and allies were constantly fighting in ack the whole night.

The axis were ack hugging the entire night to get alt. This was a big issue for me. While I think 1K spawns are great, it kind of defeats the purpose if the teams are going to turn sideways so they can climb to 15k before they enter the fray. Not sure how this can be enforced, but the axis were staying back all night making it very difficult not to get ganged while also flying in a gazillion rounds of puff ack. I don't believe the axis was getting pushed back either. This seemed to be a strategy of some sort, which worked I guess if you look at the overall kills/deaths per each side. In some cases, yes, a team can get pushed back, but we were dead even teams in relatively equal performing planes, though we could have used the D25 for a tad more speed against the C205s. Normally it's the axis pushing the allied back when allied starts low. Instead it was allied getting clobbered by gangs and ack as they stayed back. I dont think most of the axis ever crossed the sector like until about 12:30 TBH. That was really my biggest issue.

All in all, probably not the best CC we've ever had. The fights were still pretty fun though and was still better than the fights in the MA. Still glad we are able to have this event as I think its one of the most fun events.

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It can be enforced with a 100 MPH downdraft at 10k.
Appreciate the feedback and it was certainly something I was thinking about.

I've wanted to try 1K spawns for a while and this early war turny setup seemed like the perfect chance to do it. In hindsight, I think it would be best to do 1K and a 5K downdraft, or for other events, 5K spawn and 10K downdraft. Obviously we want to encourage fighting and not BnZing as you can just go to the MA for that.

As for the hiccups during the event, that's on me and I apologize. It's been years since I've setup and run an arena and I had to do it in a pinch, so I forgot about some settings. I hope we didn't lose too many folks and perhaps they came back after it was fixed. We had good numbers til the very end with a 12v12ish fight going on.

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Re: Combat Challenge XXXVII - 10/29
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2021, 08:12:20 AM »
Sorry Dark Wood but I owed DLO twice unfortunately. Here's my proof.  :rofl
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Re: Combat Challenge XXXVII - 10/29
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2021, 08:29:18 PM »
DLO had 12 kills
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Re: Combat Challenge XXXVII - 10/29
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2021, 10:23:13 AM »
Appreciate the feedback and it was certainly something I was thinking about.

I've wanted to try 1K spawns for a while and this early war turny setup seemed like the perfect chance to do it. In hindsight, I think it would be best to do 1K and a 5K downdraft, or for other events, 5K spawn and 10K downdraft. Obviously we want to encourage fighting and not BnZing as you can just go to the MA for that.

As for the hiccups during the event, that's on me and I apologize. It's been years since I've setup and run an arena and I had to do it in a pinch, so I forgot about some settings. I hope we didn't lose too many folks and perhaps they came back after it was fixed. We had good numbers til the very end with a 12v12ish fight going on.

Thanks to everyone who flew and enjoyed the event, you are the guys that keep us going every time we do these! :salute

I think the 5k downdraft might be a little low. Perhaps for 1k airspawns, an 8k down draft used, and for 5k spawns, a 12k downdraft. This would allow players to get some alt using that style of plane to its advantage which is fair, IMO. Some planes like a P47 for example need to be able to have some energy to compete in this type of fight. They could easily get that high on the climb to the fight. This would allow certain planes to behold their advantage, but would prevent planes from going sideways to get 15k with their pals to always "be the highest" mentality.

In all situations I've mostly seen in combat challenge, the fights always end up on the deck, infact you are probably getting less kills by only staying high. That being said, some planes that are BnZ style shouldn't be totally disadvantaged. It pains me to say that, but if you make the cap too low, I'm sure you will be hearing from those peeps aswell.
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Re: Combat Challenge XXXVII - 10/29
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2021, 08:30:00 PM »
DLO had 12 kills
I shot him down twice and I had 14
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Re: Combat Challenge XXXVII - 10/29
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2021, 05:04:29 AM »
I shot him down twice and I had 14

well good for you
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Re: Combat Challenge XXXVII - 10/29
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2021, 07:46:47 PM »
The only thing I miss is this event.