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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #270 on: November 29, 2021, 07:39:25 PM »
But what does the kkk and "other such groups" have to do with conservatives?

Its why most conservatives label democrats as communists, Its easier demonize and entire group of people by putting labels on them.

actually that was a serious question. like i said many or perhaps most of my friends are Republicans, some don't consider themselves conservative. some  actually supremacists and not just whites, talking about a couple of other races that hate a different one just because. even though we all can sit at a table and they talk crap at other races then they turn and say but you are OK.

I normally would call them racists, but it's more than like supremacists. and I'm talking about just a few friends but different races. I think they're all idiots but whatever.

that's where i get confused. I think there's conservatives that are democrats or liberals. but idiots are on both sides.  but I don't find any communists among my friends.

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edit: when I say supremacists, that also include democrats or liberals. not sure the difference.
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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #271 on: November 29, 2021, 10:06:00 PM »

It isn't funny.

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it is to me and my wife.  when  he sent the pm, I showed it to my wife, she just rolled her eyes and said well am I a blow up doll?  i told her well you do have big boobs and if one of them punctures you will be flying around the room.  she laughed so hard she almost fell out of the chair.

we were at the doctors office because we spend the weekend at my moms and she got up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom.  she got lost, slipped and broke her arm.  the bathroom was right in front of our bedroom. took her to urgent care and got a sling. they referred us to our own doctor and that's when I read the pm.

hey if you cannot laugh at yourself then who can you laugh at.  not sure what's the deal with sim and truthfully I dont care.  just as simple as that.  cant expect everybody to like you.


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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #272 on: November 30, 2021, 04:39:08 AM »
Semp, you're embarrassing.
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« Reply #273 on: November 30, 2021, 07:06:43 AM »
Pretty sure most are center slightly leaning left or right but can easily live with each other

The media and our politicians want/need us to think we are on the extreme ends

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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #274 on: November 30, 2021, 07:52:31 AM »
Semp, you're embarrassing.

Your Welsh  :rofl
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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #275 on: November 30, 2021, 07:57:38 AM »
Mr. Obvious say's the jury of his peer's found the facts shown Mr. Rittenhouse innocent,  :aok. Now lets get the real baddies like those terrorist parents at school board meetings
https://justthenews.com/government/security/doj-whistleblower-challenges-garland-testimony-says-fbi-counterterrorism-tool

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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #276 on: December 01, 2021, 12:50:01 AM »
Zack's countrymen Orwell and Huxley wrote instruction manuals for our age.  Way more entertaining to read, too, than The Prince or The Communist Manifesto.

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« Reply #277 on: December 01, 2021, 01:39:41 AM »
Orwell wrote about so called liberals in the 1930’s

Nothing has changed

The so called left wing liberal is a hypocrite to the bone…fact

Come the revolution you will do as your bloody told is never a true saying about left wing liberal

The KKK are as ridiculous as Neo Nazis….character-chores of a past ideology.

Today I will hurt some ones egg shell feelings :rofl

Majority of Americans actually think the American civil war was fought to free black people :rofl

No wonder the Russians and the US funded Chinese despise the US

As some one said the Americans have a American dream, the British dont they are awake :rofl
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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #278 on: December 01, 2021, 05:20:38 AM »
This whole situation is filled with foolishness all around.

We cannot account for the extent of protestors who were present with concealed weapons or devices intended to cause harm (for perceived self defense or a euphoric and misplaced sense of justice), never mind the actual rioters looting several businesses in the town. Rioting should never happen, alas it is typical behavior when a sense of collapse in civil order is perceived. There are many examples of this in the past and we can't account for the individual cases of each person who took part in this.

Overall, I completely agree within the grounds of the charges brought against him, that Rittenhouse was non-guilty.

But

In the case of his individual actions and choices, he was an absolute fool, young and dumb, for showing up there that day.

Remind yourselves of the fact that his older friend illegally purchased the AR15 for him, a minor, and consider if these guys ever give their choices much thought. His friend faces felony charges for this. Years in prison for what is pretty much a guaranteed guilty verdict. Well deserved.

We have all been 17 years old before, me much more recently compared to the lot of you and I know you all know the ignorant thought processes and aggrandized ego that leads you to believe you 100% know what you're doing, are a big, strong, capable adult, have little humility, and in a case like this, are a superhero in a big cape worthy of praise and attention in an otherwise desperate, hopeless situation.

These two kids at their tender age, thought it would be a good idea - with no formal weapon training, no others they personally knew who were a part of the armed civilian group, and had no connection to the business they claimed to be "protecting" -  to place themselves in an area where civil unrest had recently broke out, where rioters and some protestors are guaranteed to have concealed weapons, while they carry long rifles?

Who in the F honestly thinks this would be a good idea? Remember that there were certainly rioters and protesters carrying weapons, who would put their friend, let alone someone this young in that situation? What carelessness!

 I believe firmly that neither Rittenhouse nor Black had any solid reason to be there that day. I believe, that when these two hatched an idea to go to Kenosha to help "keep the peace" as part of a makeshift phony civilian defense group in which only one or several more men (and no more) are confirmed to have weapon experience, they knew that they were possibly going to get the chance to use their weapons. Disagree with this? Would you take a long rifle to an area where rioting had taken place the night before, and not consider the fairly great possibility that you might have the chance to use your weapon? What worse an individual to begin to see this possibility than a minor with no sense, just his ego and ignorance to lead him on this path?

Again I say, both Rittenhouse and his friend, Black, knew just what they were getting themselves into. First, the eldest of two years - Dominick Black, illegally purchased a firearm for a minor four months prior (events in Kenosha were unprecedented at this time; but still stupid as hell). They then decide for no solid reason to join a group of armed civilians they found online, with no personal connections within the group mind you, to head to an area of unrest with a semi-automatic rifle with a guaranteed knowledge that there may be a chance to prove themselves as "saviors" and "heroes" by defending local businesses owned by innocent people of that town. Their ignorance, foolishness, and overblown sense of self worth led them to believe they had a place there and would get a chance to play "big guy" for a day or two.  Tell me this doesn't sum up a teenager's thought process, and that you may have recognized this behavior and thought process upon recollection of your youth? I'd hope so.

I wish he and his friend reckon this ignorance. He has gotten all smug after the acquittal, and I hope reality sets in for him soon, lives were lost. He had no real reason to be there, even if you could argue that the armed civilians were necessary (which they weren't) then Rittenhouse and his friend, as young as they were, should have stayed out, -2 people with guns won't make a difference.

Per the choice of one individual, in Rittenhouse's case, his absence there may have in a way avoided the death of 2 people; asides the one handsomehunk who fired a pistol into the air for no reason right before Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum, Rittenhouse was the only one to fire shots that night in the whole damn town. Yes it was self-defense, but had he been absent, he would not have fired these shots into 3 people right? See where I'm coming from?

I weep for all loss of life, regardless of who took offense, death is not good. None of this should have happened, and I wish Rittenhouse pays the price in some form for realizing the loss of life was an unnecessary event, due to him stupidly deciding to be there. He will learn one way or the other, if he is lucky enough to mature.
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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #279 on: December 01, 2021, 06:10:28 AM »
This whole situation is filled with foolishness all around.

We cannot account for the extent of protestors who were present with concealed weapons or devices intended to cause harm (for perceived self defense or a euphoric and misplaced sense of justice), never mind the actual rioters looting several businesses in the town. Rioting should never happen, alas it is typical behavior when a sense of collapse in civil order is perceived. There are many examples of this in the past and we can't account for the individual cases of each person who took part in this.

Overall, I completely agree within the grounds of the charges brought against him, that Rittenhouse was non-guilty.

But

In the case of his individual actions and choices, he was an absolute fool, young and dumb, for showing up there that day.

Remind yourselves of the fact that his older friend illegally purchased the AR15 for him, a minor, and consider if these guys ever give their choices much thought. His friend faces felony charges for this. Years in prison for what is pretty much a guaranteed guilty verdict. Well deserved.

We have all been 17 years old before, me much more recently compared to the lot of you and I know you all know the ignorant thought processes and aggrandized ego that leads you to believe you 100% know what you're doing, are a big, strong, capable adult, have little humility, and in a case like this, are a superhero in a big cape worthy of praise and attention in an otherwise desperate, hopeless situation.

These two kids at their tender age, thought it would be a good idea - with no formal weapon training, no others they personally knew who were a part of the armed civilian group, and had no connection to the business they claimed to be "protecting" -  to place themselves in an area where civil unrest had recently broke out, where rioters and some protestors are guaranteed to have concealed weapons, while they carry long rifles?

Who in the F honestly thinks this would be a good idea? Remember that there were certainly rioters and protesters carrying weapons, who would put their friend, let alone someone this young in that situation? What carelessness!

 I believe firmly that neither Rittenhouse nor Black had any solid reason to be there that day. I believe, that when these two hatched an idea to go to Kenosha to help "keep the peace" as part of a makeshift phony civilian defense group in which only one or several more men (and no more) are confirmed to have weapon experience, they knew that they were possibly going to get the chance to use their weapons. Disagree with this? Would you take a long rifle to an area where rioting had taken place the night before, and not consider the fairly great possibility that you might have the chance to use your weapon? What worse an individual to begin to see this possibility than a minor with no sense, just his ego and ignorance to lead him on this path?

Again I say, both Rittenhouse and his friend, Black, knew just what they were getting themselves into. First, the eldest of two years - Dominick Black, illegally purchased a firearm for a minor four months prior (events in Kenosha were unprecedented at this time; but still stupid as hell). They then decide for no solid reason to join a group of armed civilians they found online, with no personal connections within the group mind you, to head to an area of unrest with a semi-automatic rifle with a guaranteed knowledge that there may be a chance to prove themselves as "saviors" and "heroes" by defending local businesses owned by innocent people of that town. Their ignorance, foolishness, and overblown sense of self worth led them to believe they had a place there and would get a chance to play "big guy" for a day or two.  Tell me this doesn't sum up a teenager's thought process, and that you may have recognized this behavior and thought process upon recollection of your youth? I'd hope so.

I wish he and his friend reckon this ignorance. He has gotten all smug after the acquittal, and I hope reality sets in for him soon, lives were lost. He had no real reason to be there, even if you could argue that the armed civilians were necessary (which they weren't) then Rittenhouse and his friend, as young as they were, should have stayed out, -2 people with guns won't make a difference.

Per the choice of one individual, in Rittenhouse's case, his absence there may have in a way avoided the death of 2 people; asides the one handsomehunk who fired a pistol into the air for no reason right before Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum, Rittenhouse was the only one to fire shots that night in the whole damn town. Yes it was self-defense, but had he been absent, he would not have fired these shots into 3 people right? See where I'm coming from?

I weep for all loss of life, regardless of who took offense, death is not good. None of this should have happened, and I wish Rittenhouse pays the price in some form for realizing the loss of life was an unnecessary event, due to him stupidly deciding to be there. He will learn one way or the other, if he is lucky enough to mature.

Woah, good to see you Anarchy. Been a while. You ever gonna come back to the game?

I agree with you on most parts. Yes, he shouldn't have been there. Yes he was too young, albeit we send kids to war just a year older. I do believe he was set up, that's why he ended up alone. I do believe he did have some kind of training. I do believe the police knew he was there and when Kyle turned himself in, they accepted him rather than tackle him to the ground and instantly arrest him. I think they knew what was up too. The FBI had drones there in the perfect spot. Too bad they weren't there in person to actually help to stop the rioting. Too bad no law enforcement did anything to stop the rioting.That's typical of our grand FBI these days. They can sure go raid an old man's home at 6am though and feel badass. Unfortunately we have no comms from either side to understand what was being said. The only thing I disagree with is being sad over this loss of life. These men were complete scumbags and child sexual abusers, as I find most Antifa are. They took it upon themselves to attack a man with a rifle and got what they deserved. They got what they had coming for them, and if Kyle didn't shoot, the other FELON who illegally had a gun would have killed him, and he would have gotten away with it because that's how Fkd up the left is in this country. No one cares about Gaige, even though he should be on trial for attempted murder with an illegal weapon. Funny how the media just shrugs that off. Because they are they are being paid off by the same people pushing antifa and violent anarchy in the city. It's a huge racket.
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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #280 on: December 01, 2021, 07:39:15 AM »
Society is declining IMO

Flash mob gang robberies are a sure sign as is the media getting behind causes that promote resisting arrest and siding with criminals over law and order..golden caskets televised like they were world leaders..

As more of that happens, more citizens will take to the streets to protect society from these animals

This trial might serve as a how to manual for some

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« Reply #281 on: December 01, 2021, 07:47:00 AM »
Let me just show you how sick and demented the left is and why everyone should stay away from this ideology.

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« Reply #282 on: December 01, 2021, 07:50:00 AM »
Heck they had a GoFundMe page for 5 million dollars to try to post bail for what seems to be a racists nutbag who plowed into the parade..

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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #283 on: December 01, 2021, 08:19:42 AM »
China and Russia are the enemy :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Its what happens when the masses have no religion,country or work ethic

Jane Fonda still not apologised yet for supporting the Vietnamese communists, the writing was on the wall then.

Apparently fat people should not be shamed is that an American idea?

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Re: Self defense?
« Reply #284 on: December 01, 2021, 01:04:53 PM »

Jane Fonda still not apologised yet for supporting the Vietnamese communists, the writing was on the wall then.


Me and some friends from various age groups are waiting for the day she dies to pay a visit to her grave with our piss