Marijuana legalization. What's your stance?

[Shuffler]

Educate yourself, you've been lied to.

Not on someone's word.... have seen it with my own eyes.

[zack1234]

Yuval Harari intellectual idol of Davos and WEF who don't exists.

“Give the useless masses video games and drugs”

Bend the knee and put your masks in.

Peasants

[guncrasher]

Alcohol is far worse and dangerous than MJ. There is no question about it. Alcohol is the gateway drug. Alcohol gives you the "don't care just do it" mentality. Alcoholism leads to far worse diseases. People become abusive on Alcohol. Alcohol makes you more sexually active to strangers. You can over dose on Alcohol, not MJ. Alcohol is addictive to the point of withdrawals and pain if you stop, MJ is not. Even cigarettes are far worse than MJ on a health perspective. I think there are just so many false perspectives about MJ.

mj is as just as bad in terms of smoking. while it also does some good. but it's just as bad on your lungs.

anyway there's an old saying if you suddenly stop heroin, you only wish you were dead. quit alcohol without proper medical supervision and you will actually die.


semp

[TheBug]

mj is as just as bad in terms of smoking.
semp

As bad as tobacco?  Studies have shown otherwise, so far.

[guncrasher]

As bad as tobacco?  Studies have shown otherwise, so far.

i checked the American lung association or whatever is called.  problem with weed is you inhale deeper and hold it longer.

I also smoke cigarettes and I always cough with weed. I can't vape or smoke wax, they give me an asthma attack,  I don't have asthma, well not yet.

I'm pro weed, if thats what you want, but I've checked facts. lots of wrong info outthere. from it cures cancer, it doesn't, to it's not as bad as cigarettes.  it does a lot of help for lots of conditions. for me,  I'm off bipolar medication and it helps with pain on my legs and back.  but I  know the risks and how it may affect my lungs.

and yeah, I should really quit smoking.

semp

[TheBug]

Not disputing that inhaling any kind of smoke is bad for you. Just your claim that smoking cannabis is just as bad as tobacco.

[Dichotomy]

i checked the American lung association or whatever is called.  problem with weed is you inhale deeper and hold it longer.

I also smoke cigarettes and I always cough with weed. I can't vape or smoke wax, they give me an asthma attack,  I don't have asthma, well not yet.

I'm pro weed, if thats what you want, but I've checked facts. lots of wrong info outthere. from it cures cancer, it doesn't, to it's not as bad as cigarettes.  it does a lot of help for lots of conditions. for me,  I'm off bipolar medication and it helps with pain on my legs and back.  but I  know the risks and how it may affect my lungs.

and yeah, I should really quit smoking.

semp

have you considered edibles?  Believe it or not my 77 year old mom loves her 'special' cookies

[guncrasher]

have you considered edibles?  Believe it or not my 77 year old mom loves her 'special' cookies

oh yeah I try them but I find out they taste so good I tend to use more 


semp

[Dichotomy]

and the problem is?  Maybe I should ship you some cookies so when I come back I have an even money chance of shooting you down LOL

[guncrasher]

and the problem is?  Maybe I should ship you some cookies so when I come back I have an even money chance of shooting you down LOL

problem is money  , cant afford to eat a brownie a 2 or 3 times a week.  that's normally what I spend in a month.


semp

[DmonSlyr]

problem is money  , cant afford to eat a brownie a 2 or 3 times a week.  that's normally what I spend in a month.


semp

You wouldn't feel a brownie 2 or 3 times a week due to tolerance. You really have to do edibles once every 2 weeks to actually feel something.

[guncrasher]

Not disputing that inhaling any kind of smoke is bad for you. Just your claim that smoking cannabis is just as bad as tobacco.

it's a plant full of all kinds of chemicals not just thc.  maybe it's not as bad or it could be worst.  some studies have shown that thc perhaps helps counteract (is that the right word?) the cancer causing chemicals but studies so far have been inconclusive and some contradict each other.

same for the study i found where it says it kills cancer but that has only been done on rats and dont really remember what type of cancer.  but it sure as hell helps some people with cancer and other diseases.  the more we know the better.

I dont know how it helps me with bipolar but it does.  then again when I was taking lithium nobody knows exactly how it helped me, I couldnt take any anti-depressants because I am one of those people that get suicidal taking it, and by suicidal i mean it really is an obsession.  but lithium was affecting my liver, so I remember back in the 80's when I smoked weed, my life got better, so I asked my doctor about it.  all he said what do you have to lose, just be careful.  havent taken lithium since then. truth is there's a lot of unknowns when it comes to drugs, some people get paranoid, i dont get paranoid.  I mostly take it at night right before I got to sleep.  not to help me sleep but more to help me in the morning as that's when my back comes into play when I wake up.


semp

[guncrasher]

You wouldn't feel a brownie 2 or 3 times a week due to tolerance. You really have to do edibles once every 2 weeks to actually feel something.

yeah but brownies around here cost 10 to 20 bucks or more.  I dont take them for the effect of getting high.  for around 40 bucks I can buy weed that will last me a month sometimes longer.  I dont really eat sugar at all, if I can avoid it.  it makes me nauseous. but brownies with thc cancel each other and I really miss sweets, that's why I'll eat a 300 brownie in one sitting.


semp

[Dichotomy]

Just an aside here.  As I said in my original post I used to grow it for my ex and a couple of neighbors around me with medical issues.  If you're interested in producing your own just shoot me a DM.  I have an equipment list etc on a g drive link.  I can also point out land mines I've stepped on that you can avoid.  It's not cheap getting started.  You're talking easily 1k for equipment, nutrients, soil, seeds, etc.  That said when you're pumping out 5 to 15 ozs a month for what goes for $325 an ounce locally it's really a no brainer if you want to grow your own 'medicine' 

[TheBug]

it's a plant full of all kinds of chemicals not just thc.  maybe it's not as bad or it could be worst.  some studies have shown that thc perhaps helps counteract (is that the right word?) the cancer causing chemicals but studies so far have been inconclusive and some contradict each other.

same for the study i found where it says it kills cancer but that has only been done on rats and dont really remember what type of cancer.  but it sure as hell helps some people with cancer and other diseases.  the more we know the better.

I dont know how it helps me with bipolar but it does.  then again when I was taking lithium nobody knows exactly how it helped me, I couldnt take any anti-depressants because I am one of those people that get suicidal taking it, and by suicidal i mean it really is an obsession.  but lithium was affecting my liver, so I remember back in the 80's when I smoked weed, my life got better, so I asked my doctor about it.  all he said what do you have to lose, just be careful.  havent taken lithium since then. truth is there's a lot of unknowns when it comes to drugs, some people get paranoid, i dont get paranoid.  I mostly take it at night right before I got to sleep.  not to help me sleep but more to help me in the morning as that's when my back comes into play when I wake up.


semp

Cool, glad it helps ya.  Can always try making your own edibles too.  Few ways to do it.  I make an extract using Everclear(190 proof grain alcohol), water bath in crockpot to evaporate the alcohol and then left with oil.  Melt some chocolate wafers, add the oil and mold the candies.  I do enjoy smoking joints(not so much in the winter) but find the edibles are much better when using it for sleep issues due to the duration.

https://emilykylenutrition.com/easy-cannabis-chocolates/