Author Topic: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?  (Read 7172 times)

Offline Busher

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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #60 on: July 09, 2022, 04:16:03 PM »

Trump always has a little Putin juice dripping off his chin. 

I wonder what Putin has on him?  Or maybe Trump just idolizes authoritarian dictators. 



Cpt, I think you are on point. Trump idolized dictators of all shapes; but I also suspect that when Deutsche Bank told Trump that his credit was cancelled, it's quite possible that Putin propped up his house of cards. His liability to the German bank exceeded 600 mil.
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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #61 on: July 10, 2022, 04:45:44 AM »
If I'm pissing off a Trumper, I'm doing God's work.

I’m pretty sure you’re the only left crying tears for Hillary still.

It’s ok bud, you still have your pig god Michael Moore and Jerry Harris to entertain you. Oh shoot, Biden’s buddy, Harris is now doing 12yrs for child pornography.  You’ll just have to settle for Michael Moore.
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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #62 on: July 10, 2022, 05:01:07 AM »
If we’re pretty sure that Russia will go nuclear to keep Crimea. And zelensky has stated he plans on liberating Crimea. Why are we financing billions of dollars to make that a reality? The Crimea is not a vital strategic interest to the USA. Crimea is a vital strategic interest to Russia.
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Offline Eagler

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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #63 on: July 10, 2022, 05:56:22 AM »
If we’re pretty sure that Russia will go nuclear to keep Crimea. And zelensky has stated he plans on liberating Crimea. Why are we financing billions of dollars to make that a reality? The Crimea is not a vital strategic interest to the USA. Crimea is a vital strategic interest to Russia.

Ding,ding, ding

We have a winner here folks!

What is the real reason we were sucked into Ukraine?

Either we are the global police force the rest of the world has expected us to be and now have to be to keep the US dollar from falling out of reserve currency status or we care not and shouldn't be involved in every conflict around the world regardless of how bad it is shown on the evening news...

I would like to see someone else handle it for once but sadly NATO is mainly just the United States military and our printed now bloated/inflated useless dollar paying for it all

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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #64 on: July 10, 2022, 07:27:54 AM »
This guy says what I’ve been thinking for years.

https://youtu.be/JrMiSQAGOS4
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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #65 on: July 10, 2022, 07:35:57 AM »
This guy says what I’ve been thinking for years.

https://youtu.be/JrMiSQAGOS4

All of Russia's excuses for their initial invasion in 2014, the orchestrating of their rebellion in donbass and this invasion has to do with Muscovite imperialism and not the bs reasons like "de nazisfying" etc. 

That really is it. 

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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #66 on: July 10, 2022, 07:42:27 AM »
Duh. Why did you write that below my quote as if you were responding to something I wrote?
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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #67 on: July 10, 2022, 08:19:18 AM »
Actually the invasion in 2014 was the predictable reaction to Ukraine moving legislation to restrict Russian access to sevestopal. Russia believes Crimea access is vital to the states existence. By threatening to pinch Crimea Ukraine became an existential threat to Russia. Everybody saw this coming. I said years ago and many have said throughout history, one sure way to start a war with Russia is to threaten Crimea. Russia will not back out of a fight for Crimea because, correct or not, they believe it is vital. Vital as in necessary for existence. I don’t believe that but then again I live in the 21st  century, the neo soviets running Russia are still living in the 20th.  I get helping Ukraine defend themselves against genocide, but after about $50 billion I got to ask, what’s the plan Joe. What’s the desired end state look like? Because it’s starting to look like you, mr president, are looking to go all in on an unwinable game. Because if you think Ukraine is going to stop Russia then you’re as dumb as trump. Btw if anyone here is too young to remember the Cold War, this is what it was. A horribly atrocious inhuman ussr doing ghastly inhuman things to their neighbors and their own people and nobody could do a damn thing about it. We just became sickened onlookers stymieing them in minor ways when and where we could.
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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #68 on: July 10, 2022, 09:03:36 AM »
This guy says what I’ve been thinking for years.

https://youtu.be/JrMiSQAGOS4

You would think it was aired 6 months ago not 6 years ago...

Why the obama/potato head involvement with Russia and Ukraine? Obsession?

Seems they waited for potato head joe to be selected before restarting what was paused for from 2016 - 2020

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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #69 on: July 10, 2022, 10:01:05 AM »
I’m pretty sure you’re the only left crying tears for Hillary still.

I don't give a fig about Hillary.

You need to stop taking the drugs you steal from work, Murse.
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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #70 on: July 10, 2022, 10:07:51 AM »


Every dollar we can spend to help Ukrainians kill more Russians is a dollar well spent.

You Putin boot-lickers remind me of Jane Fonda.
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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #71 on: July 10, 2022, 10:49:23 AM »

You need to stop taking the drugs you steal from work, Murse.

Classy dude.

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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #72 on: July 10, 2022, 10:52:27 AM »
I get helping Ukraine defend themselves against genocide, but after about $50 billion I got to ask, what’s the plan Joe. What’s the desired end state look like? Because it’s starting to look like you, mr president, are looking to go all in on an unwinable game. Because if you think Ukraine is going to stop Russia then you’re as dumb as trump. Btw if anyone here is too young to remember the Cold War, this is what it was. A horribly atrocious inhuman ussr doing ghastly inhuman things to their neighbors and their own people and nobody could do a damn thing about it. We just became sickened onlookers stymieing them in minor ways when and where we could.

How is UA in an unwinnable position?  If anything, it looks to me that Putin has stuck his foot in way too far and his best case scenario is a pyrrhic victory.

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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #73 on: July 10, 2022, 10:54:20 AM »
Toxic, psychotic, self-aggrandizing drama queens simply aren't worth me spending my time on.

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Re: War in Ukraine: haven't we seen this movie before?
« Reply #74 on: July 10, 2022, 11:04:55 AM »
OK, Trumper.

So your retort is to double down?  Classy and a slanderer.  Your behavior is why places benefit from moderation.  Once any sort of moderation goes away the real depth of peoples character bubbles to the surface like scum in the cauldron.

It would be nice to see this place return to the mid 2000's when moderation was based on having a sense of decency and adding to a conversation.  It's too bad some people kept pushing it until things went too far the other way and the forum choked to death.