Who wants a secure border?

[-gg-]

I'm not asking if you think a wall is effective or not. I'm not asking if you think the border can be secured. I am asking if you WANT the border secured.

[Tig]

I sure as hell want it secured.
I don't want to compete for jobs with people who never did the proper paperwork to be here. My Vietnamese family (my mom and her parents) had to fight pirates, and was nearly convicted by the Thai government before they made it to the US. And you know what? After going through hell and back, they still did it legally.
No one can tell me that it's fair that my family went through that and I still need to pay taxes to support welfare for illegal immigrants. It's not fair. Literally.

So yes, I very much want the border secured, and I want everyone without the proper documents deported back to where they came from. They are more than welcome to come back as long as they follow the proper legal system.

P.S - Have y'all noticed how the media no longer calls them "illegal immigrants"? They're simply referred to as "migrants" as if they were legal. They can literally cross the border and get support from the government. That's jacked up.

[CptTrips]

I'm not asking if you think a wall is effective or not. I'm not asking if you think the border can be secured. I am asking if you WANT the border secured.

I also want to ask, who likes Mom and apple pie?

Also, who likes peace on Earth and good will towards men?


The question isn't do we want secure borders.  The question is how to accomplish it in the most rational and effective, and fiscally responsible manner.


How about, who wants to waste hundreds of billions on ineffective, unneeded government construction projects that won't do what they claim and cost 10x what they were estimated?

Raise you hands...

[-gg-]

Thanks for answering.

So you want a secure border and elected Biden, who is allowing people to flood in because of his policies. You say you want the border secured but lot of people do not want it. They want open borders and they want catch and release, ala Biden.

The federal government sued Arizona when Arizona passes strict laws against illegals. They will do the same with Texas after your governor directed state police to no longer turn illegals over to the feds.

Lots of people do not want to secure the border. They bus illegals all over the United States and drop them off. They attack people and states that want secure borders and call them racists. You vote for those people.

[CptTrips]

Thanks for answering.

So you're admitting you want to waste hundreds of billions on ineffective, unneeded government construction projects that won't do what they claim and cost 10x what they were estimated?

[Meatwad]

I sure as hell want it secured.
I don't want to compete for jobs with people who never did the proper paperwork to be here. My Vietnamese family (my mom and her parents) had to fight pirates, and was nearly convicted by the Thai government before they made it to the US. And you know what? After going through hell and back, they still did it legally.
No one can tell me that it's fair that my family went through that and I still need to pay taxes to support welfare for illegal immigrants. It's not fair. Literally.

So yes, I very much want the border secured, and I want everyone without the proper documents deported back to where they came from. They are more than welcome to come back as long as they follow the proper legal system.

P.S - Have y'all noticed how the media no longer calls them "illegal immigrants"? They're simply referred to as "migrants" as if they were legal. They can literally cross the border and get support from the government. That's jacked up.

Some of them are calling the illegals "dreamers" now because of some PC sissy stupidity. To me they are all illegal mexicans

[CptTrips]

To me they are all illegal mexicans

It's illegal to be Mexican?

Wow. 

[-gg-]

So you're admitting you want to waste hundreds of billions on ineffective, unneeded government construction projects that won't do what they claim and cost 10x what they were estimated?

When did I mention any such thing?


Do you know what a strawman argument is? There is no way to have a dialog with someone like you. 

[CptTrips]

When did I mention any such thing?

So you agree we ought to find a better approach than a 3000 mile vanity wall?

[RUSH1]

So you're admitting you want to waste hundreds of billions on ineffective, unneeded government construction projects that won't do what they claim and cost 10x what they were estimated?

What does that have to do with enforcing current laws and  allowing border control to do their jobs?  Stop with the deflecting, man up and admit you want open borders.

[Arlo]

What does that have to do with enforcing current laws and  allowing border (Patrol) to do their jobs? 

Imagined?

[RUSH1]

Imagined?

Whatever smart-ass.  By the way, what were the crossing numbers a few years ago?  Amazing how the commies still try to defend this disaster. 

[CptTrips]

What does that have to do with enforcing current laws and  allowing border control to do their jobs? 

Where did I say not to enforce current laws?  Do you like just making things up?

I want remote sensors, drone surveillance and prison terms for business owners knowingly or negligently employ illegals.

i just think it's stupid to try and build 30ft walls across mountains like this:

[guncrasher]

Some of them are calling the illegals "dreamers" now because of some PC sissy stupidity. To me they are all illegal mexicans

wow now Koreans are Mexicans.


semp

[RUSH1]

Where did I say not to enforce current laws?  Do you like just making things up?

I want remote sensors, drone surveillance and prison terms for business owners knowingly or negligently employ illegals.

i just think it's stupid to try and build 30ft walls across mountains like this:

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The OP stated walls were not the argument from the start of this thread.  Yet, you went there.  Now you're trying to muddy the waters even more by mentioning the employers of illegals.  Fair points in a different discussion.    It was really a simple question.  Are you for secure borders?