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Offline Nefarious

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Been brewing in my head for a bit...
« on: August 05, 2022, 08:42:42 PM »
I typed this out a million times in my head, and might regret saying it, but here goes:

It's a shame that Aces High is at this point when Hanks and Spielberg production of Masters of the Air is finally becoming a reality.

For me at least,  it seemed like there was always some bump in new and renewed interest in AH when films and productions like these have happened over the last 20+ years.

Here's to hoping Masters of the Air will be great and AH continues to fuel our imagination. <S>
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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Re: Been brewing in my head for a bit...
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2022, 08:48:29 PM »
Agreed.
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Re: Been brewing in my head for a bit...
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2022, 02:44:25 AM »
What masters of the air?

Don’t tell me it’s another film for the Yank to obtain a world view.

Books are good to obtain ideas.

What is the reason Americans need films?

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Re: Been brewing in my head for a bit...
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2022, 04:17:09 AM »
when is the release date?  Google search was anecdotal. 

That said.. ya.  I think after the film we will see a large influx of new players.  I, honestly, think that at that point it's going to be incumbent on old vets especially ones that are 'current' to reach out to the new guys and try to help them.  I'd say a 70 to 80 percent attrition rate is likely regardless.  I know when I get my S together I'll spend at least one night a week in the TA teaching any now person that wants to learn the basics like I used to.  Then try to pass them off to someone who can teach them advanced ACM or bomber techniques that I know and respect. 

At this point I think the game is getting to the point of 'pay it forward or it will die'.  I didn't win the lotto so my nefarious plans of buying it regardless of price and doing a total makeover didn't pan out. 
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Re: Been brewing in my head for a bit...
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2022, 04:48:47 PM »
nopoop

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Re: Been brewing in my head for a bit...
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2022, 09:08:21 AM »

Really looking forward to Masters of the Air.  Hope they don't stuff it.  I was beginning to think it was permanent vaporware.

Not sure I see any benefit for AH unless there was some kind of tie-in advertising.  Even then, then outcome is questionable. 

People I asked in the DCS world, people fully into flight-sim'ing, most had never heard of AH.  Some of the ones who did, thought it had closed years ago.  The remainder weren't impressed with the graphics or the subscription model.

HTC could throw some money at advertising to take advantage of the interest the show generates, but there is still the problem of poor conversion rate making advertising ROI poor.

At best it would get a bunch of eyes on AH and trial downloads.  That would be a good thing.  But the Steam release also put a bunch of fresh eyes on AH and didn't convert to many new customers.  Those were targeted gamers who are on Steam to spend money.  Probably a far more targeted audience than random dudes watching MotA who might not even own a joystick.  If you couldn't convert Steam players,  I doubt random MotA views will fair much better.

Fundamentally AH with it's current graphics, current arena model, current subscription model, current level of development, appears to be a really hard sell to a modern market.  Assuming nothing changes, I don't see how MotA makes any real difference.

On the positive side, HTC is blessed with a very durable existing customer base that at this point are locked in until they die.  They appear to be insensitive to lack of new development (other than some grousing) so they are low overhead.  It's main draw now is as a nostalgic social network of old timers who started back in the day of 56k modems.  Pretty much the only large inflows I've seen over the years were refugees from near-peer platforms that closed.  That well is running pretty dry.   

The only real hope is that MotA reinvigorates some old previous players and HTC can recycle them.  But it seems returning players burn out again pretty quick or just die of old age.  I wonder how many other gaming platforms have old age as a appreciable factor in player attrition.  That tells you something.  No squeakers, no future.







 









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Re: Been brewing in my head for a bit...
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2022, 11:13:01 AM »
I'd say that's fairly accurate Mr. Flagg

What AH needs is a total overhaul of graphics etc to keep it relevant and new players coming in and sticking around.  I stumbled across a trailer for 'war thunder' yesterday and it looks like the graphics alone smoke AH right out of the water. 

That said I'm one of the old timers you referred to and I've spent a lot of time and I'm going to spend a lot of money to get back.  Then I'm going to do my part to be an ambassoder of the game when I go screwing around on other parts of the web. 
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Re: Been brewing in my head for a bit...
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2022, 06:08:11 PM »
What masters of the air?

Don’t tell me it’s another film for the Yank to obtain a world view.

Books are good to obtain ideas.

What is the reason Americans need films?

Americans don't need films, its (atleast at one point) entertainment. W

We make films because this is free country

We also don't need a permit to own and operate a kitchen knife  :rofl