Author Topic: Perk the manned gun kills  (Read 5048 times)

Offline 1Cane

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Perk the manned gun kills
« on: September 18, 2022, 06:12:17 PM »
There I was at 26,000 feet in the B29s when whammo an 88 got me. I rolled in to kill a VH and whammo an 88 got me. I think since they have no problems killing perk planes, When you kill them, you should at least get a kill message on who was in the gun if not additional perk points. As Elvis would say thank you very much :banana: :banana: :banana:
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Offline Tig

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Re: Perk the manned gun kills
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2022, 06:56:38 PM »
There I was at 26,000 feet in the B29s when whammo an 88 got me. I rolled in to kill a VH and whammo an 88 got me. I think since they have no problems killing perk planes, When you kill them, you should at least get a kill message on who was in the gun if not additional perk points. As Elvis would say thank you very much :banana: :banana: :banana:

Agreed. The fact that gunners cannot be killed, making AA guns have a flawless K/D is ridiculous. It's a one way battle and it's incredibly frustrating. Gun squatters get it too easy, this is an air combat game, not a shooting range!!  :furious
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Re: Perk the manned gun kills
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2022, 03:30:40 AM »
this is an air combat game, not a shooting range!! 

Exactly..... so why are yall attacking a base?  :banana:      :rofl
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Re: Perk the manned gun kills
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2022, 06:13:45 AM »
Manned guns are the handicap parking for AH...

If you can't fly a fighter,  bomber or crawl around in a gv...you can man gun.

And yes they need to be perked as one 88 was not able to do what some can do with it here...kills the other forms of game play

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Re: Perk the manned gun kills
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2022, 06:28:28 AM »
Exactly..... so why are yall attacking a base?  :banana:      :rofl

Because that's where all the flak huggers are at.  :noid

I will say there's been some good mid-high alt fights lately, last few major battles I've shown up to have been in excess of 10,000 feet by the time I arrive in my Mossy.  :airplane:
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Re: Perk the manned gun kills
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2022, 10:37:16 AM »
Next people will be wanting the terrain to be perked since it has an excellent K/D ratio  :devil well do the manned guns have a perk value at least?
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Re: Perk the manned gun kills
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2022, 12:28:17 PM »
I think a lot of those guys in B17s and B24s over Europe wished the German's would've perked and nerfed the 88 aswell.

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Re: Perk the manned gun kills
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2022, 01:17:11 PM »
Always annoyed me in a player vs player game, the manned ack wasn't a scored and kill counted category.  It just gives folks a safe place to hide, with no gain or consequences for success or failure.

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Re: Perk the manned gun kills
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2022, 02:27:24 PM »
I'd like to see them gone entirely. They're nothing but an annoyance to the few folks left actually dogfighting. Or as some do, a risk-free way to get revenge on the guy that just shot you down. I guess I shouldn't JUDGE people's motivations... :bolt:

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Re: Perk the manned gun kills
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2022, 03:16:02 PM »
I'd like to see them gone entirely. They're nothing but an annoyance to the few folks left actually dogfighting. Or as some do, a risk-free way to get revenge on the guy that just shot you down. I guess I shouldn't JUDGE people's motivations... :bolt:

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Offline RichardDarkwood

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Re: Perk the manned gun kills
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2022, 04:28:51 PM »
You all talk as though anyone can just jump in a Deck gun position and start dropping planes out the sky. It's not as easy as that. Takes practice and that's how you get to Carnegie Hall.


The players using the deck guns pay $14.99 just like everyone else.


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Re: Perk the manned gun kills
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2022, 06:02:12 PM »
I'd like to see them gone entirely. They're nothing but an annoyance to the few folks left actually dogfighting. Or as some do, a risk-free way to get revenge on the guy that just shot you down. I guess I shouldn't JUDGE people's motivations... :bolt:

I agree. All manned guns should be AI. No reason a player should be able to take the easy way out and point n shoot in manned guns. If I spend 10 minutes to get alt and fly to a base to Jabo, or spend 20 minutes getting alt in bombers to bomb a base. Why should a player be able to lazely get into a manned ack and one ping kill someone who spent all of that time. They have enough trouble with AI puff ack and AAA as it is. Plus the gunner gets all of the reward while the person who spent tons of time gets absolutely nothing for it but a few damage points. We've gone over this for years but Hitech just doesn't get it. Being gunned down by a stupid lazy manned ack only makes the fighter/jabo/bomber want to log off and do something else. Ain't no one gonna stop playing if they can't get in a manned gun.
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Re: Perk the manned gun kills
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2022, 06:16:15 PM »
The players using the deck guns pay $14.99 just like everyone else.

The problem is that their $14.99 is devaluing my $14.99, since they're playing a game that I'm not, and that they cannot be defeated in. Their only purpose is to infringe upon my (flying) game. There are plenty of space invader games out there for the folks that can't/won't fly.

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Re: Perk the manned gun kills
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2022, 07:23:22 PM »
You all talk as though anyone can just jump in a Deck gun position and start dropping planes out the sky. It's not as easy as that. Takes practice and that's how you get to Carnegie Hall.


The players using the deck guns pay $14.99 just like everyone else.


Whether the rope is new or old people will complain.

I agree.  As a scored category.

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Re: Perk the manned gun kills
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2022, 07:33:01 PM »
ya make em killable and scoreable. 

I'm all good with the furball and the base taking.  Whatevers your pleasure.  But going after manned ack should be something that shows up in your score. 
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