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Offline oboe

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Re: Blue Paint Help
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2023, 11:49:46 AM »
Its an interesting question for sure.  Its one the most distinctive P-38 paint schemes, and the nose art figure is among the most beautiful females on a Lightning nose I think:


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Re: Blue Paint Help
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2023, 10:24:15 PM »
Here's Devil's True Blue.   If it is good then I'll work to get the paint trimmed up neatly.

Seems a bit pale to me, but I think that's a natural reaction when compared to how it started.





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Re: Blue Paint Help
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2023, 10:45:08 PM »
I really like it.

Do you want a sample of my RNZAF roundel blue? It's a bit darker and bolder.
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Re: Blue Paint Help
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2023, 11:29:09 PM »
I really like it.

Do you want a sample of my RNZAF roundel blue? It's a bit darker and bolder.

I'll take any help I can get.

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Re: Blue Paint Help
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2023, 11:57:45 PM »
Here it is, RNZAF blue


For comparison, this was True Blue

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Re: Blue Paint Help
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2023, 12:53:59 AM »
Many thanks.  Hmmmmmmm.   That almost makes True Blue looks better.

The common perception is that this plane was more toward Sky Blue if I'm not mistaken.    :bhead
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Re: Blue Paint Help
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2023, 01:32:56 AM »
My two cents worth.

The problem I have always had with this aircraft and its profiles is they don't match the plane in the layout and potentially all the light blue in every location.
So starting off profiles they nearly all look like this with all the blue bits with its last paint scheme.



Some of the profiles have the text no place near the blue topped nose. Yet every photo has numerous letters on both sides over lapping this blue topped nose. This profile brings the text right to the lines edge yet wont cross it.
So why do most profiles ignore this? The photos below clearly show it overlapping yet they would have us believe its all the same colour blue.





So is it a blue topped nose or is it a standard anti glare panel? Or maybe the text is just another colour other than light blue? There is clearly two colours in play with the text to begin with.
Also here is a couple of real colour photos from the same group with some light blue bits.





They may have different shades of blue a bouts within the group these two would be at least a good base line I think.  :headscratch:


So early scheme to the finished all blue like the profile above.





So what colour is the #194? Not like the text & not like the blue anti glare panel on the nose if it is blue.




Now we have partially painted spinners.



Also in this image the air intakes are painted now.



Finally the finished product the wing fillets are now painted as well & #194 seems to be a few shades lighter as well & overall the light blue seems feasible  :headscratch: except for the names text it has to have additional shading around the tops of the letters so not to clash with the blue nose top because they still overlap..






I think there is numerous schemes on this plane depending on what time frame the photos were taken.

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Re: Blue Paint Help
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2023, 01:47:57 AM »
I never even considered the anti-glare being OD.   Wow. 

The blue on St. Louis Blues looks a lot like Devil's True Blue, too.
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Re: Blue Paint Help
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2023, 01:52:33 AM »
I never even considered the anti-glare being OD.   Wow. 

The blue on St. Louis Blues looks a lot like Devil's True Blue, too.

It depends what time frame I believe.

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Re: Blue Paint Help
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2023, 04:49:39 AM »
It depends what time frame I believe.

Yeah, true.   But I never caught it in those pics until you pointed it out.

I think the nose paint was rather sloppily applied.   Hence why it winds up in such strange places.
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Re: Blue Paint Help
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2023, 11:35:11 AM »
Yeah, true.   But I never caught it in those pics until you pointed it out.

I think the nose paint was rather sloppily applied.   Hence why it winds up in such strange places.

Yes and no possibly.  :headscratch:
Here is a sister ship from the same squadron in the link below. Blue stripe on the wing same spinners and this this one has a kill panel painted in what looks to be black.

https://www.ozatwar.com/usaaf/alcoburn.htm

In this video this plane has similar markings. Correct spinners painted wing root fillets and a roughly painted kill panel very square & seems to have the same sheen as the spinners and fillets.

3min 40 sec mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0TVTg2paBM



The pilot never got a kill in this plane so the panel was never used. My theory is he changed the kill less blue panel into an artistic design and added the wedge shape to the square panel and followed the rivet line on that panel and painted the same thing on the other side and did the O/D anti glare panel as well.





I do believe it was an all blue trim at the later date as all the historians mention this from interviews with people there at the time.







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Re: Blue Paint Help
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2023, 11:39:10 AM »
Ah, yes.  Of course.   That makes sense.

Many thanks.
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Re: Blue Paint Help - P-38J "Virginia Marie"
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2023, 01:04:51 PM »
Okay guys, here is Devil's True Blue on Virginia Marie.   I have not finalized the lighting maps yet, but I think I'm pretty close.

I'm going for the penultimate version of the paint scheme before they went crazy with the blue paint on the fuselage.


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Re: Blue Paint Help
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2023, 01:13:24 PM »
Looks great.
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Re: Blue Paint Help
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2023, 01:20:05 PM »
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