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P-47N 413thFG 1stFS "AC"
« on: November 28, 2023, 02:49:01 PM »
A popular P-47N scheme, originally by Krusty. 






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Re: P-47N 413thFG 1stFS "AC"
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2023, 02:50:13 PM »
Beautiful.
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Re: P-47N 413thFG 1stFS "AC"
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2023, 06:33:33 PM »
Nice job.  I'm probably the only one who will suggest darkening the black slightly, but that's a minor quibble.
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Re: P-47N 413thFG 1stFS "AC"
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2023, 10:12:06 PM »
Very nice Oboe :rock
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Re: P-47N 413thFG 1stFS "AC"
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2023, 02:37:15 AM »
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Re: P-47N 413thFG 1stFS "AC"
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2023, 05:36:01 AM »
Great job on the update Oboe, a massive improvement.

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Re: P-47N 413thFG 1stFS "AC"
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2023, 08:18:03 AM »
Thanks guys.  I've always thought the black and silver looked nice on the Thunderbolt's frame, and the large squadron patch on both sides adds a nice splash of color...

The markings are and rudder color are directly from Krusty's bmp; I usually try to keep some work from the original if I can, and just tone down the color, make adjustments, etc to counter AHIII's more powerful lighting.  I can look at the black again - it may be the angle and my spec map values also.   Generally I try to keep black shades on the lighter side, to allow some headroom for the really true black areas like shadows, gaps and holes.     

Not sure I can get this one submitted by Monday - busy week here and I have another skin in front of it that I must finish first.

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Re: P-47N 413thFG 1stFS "AC"
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2023, 09:07:02 AM »
If you need a day or two extra to submit it, let me know.

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Re: P-47N 413thFG 1stFS "AC"
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2023, 10:48:41 AM »
I still think the black is a bit too faded.  I'd bump it up a bit.    It's almost charcoal grayish.
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Re: P-47N 413thFG 1stFS "AC"
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2023, 08:26:39 PM »
I still think the black is a bit too faded.  I'd bump it up a bit.    It's almost charcoal grayish.

I disagree. It looks right and not too saturated, and therefore like a game/graphic.
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Re: P-47N 413thFG 1stFS "AC"
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2023, 08:55:21 AM »
I disagree. It looks right and not too saturated, and therefore like a game/graphic.

It looks like charcoal gray not black.

At some point desaturation goes too far and we are all guilty of it.

It looks okay on my phone, but still light.  However, I don't play the game on my phone and on my monitor it looks too light.
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Re: P-47N 413thFG 1stFS "AC"
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2023, 08:58:52 AM »


I'm wondering how Devil's black paint compares.

It could be lighting angles but I think Devil's is darker.
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Re: P-47N 413thFG 1stFS "AC"
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2023, 09:46:42 AM »
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I'm wondering how Devil's black paint compares.

It could be lighting angles but I think Devil's is darker.

There is almost no true black on that skin. The spinner and fuselage cross are RLM 70 black-green. The plate behind the cowl is a custom black-blue I use only for that panel as my usual black color doesn't look right there.
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Re: P-47N 413thFG 1stFS "AC"
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2023, 10:21:03 AM »
Well, that color looks darker than the Jug's and to my eye that's the direction I'd go, even if only slightly.  The Jug black is "pastel" on my end.
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Re: P-47N 413thFG 1stFS "AC"
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2023, 12:36:28 PM »
Devil what are the RGB values you use for RLM 70?

I've also found that the blacks on the Jug were set to only 80% opacity, so increasing that would make a difference...