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Offline Eagler

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Re: Invasion
« Reply #60 on: March 22, 2024, 05:58:44 PM »
Security concern..importing crime is a crime right?



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Re: Invasion
« Reply #61 on: March 22, 2024, 06:00:05 PM »
Quote from: Eviscerate on March 22, 2024, 09:41:20 AM
Yup. Hard to complain about things not being done when there's a Bipartisan bill that gets shot down by one party.

Why was the border opened up in the first place?   
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« Reply #62 on: March 22, 2024, 06:59:59 PM »
Quote from: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 05:58:35 PM
Still peddling worthless bills like this https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/4455506-breaking-down-the-senate-border-bill-and-why-it-has-no-chance-of-passing/, I see.
 

One newspaper's opinion but the obvious still stands.... better to do nothing until January 20, 2025?

What scares me more is the division in the country. Sides are so polarized that I am losing sight of any path back to negotiated harmony. Sides have  lost the ability to listen to one another and work to find a middle ground. God knows the nation's people will never be unified by force. Is there a tiny morsel of mutual respect left.
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Re: Invasion
« Reply #63 on: March 22, 2024, 07:05:05 PM »
Quote from: Busher on March 22, 2024, 06:59:59 PM
 

One newspaper's opinion but the obvious still stands.... better to do nothing until January 20, 2025?

What scares me more is the division in the country. Sides are so polarized that I am losing sight of any path back to negotiated harmony. Sides have  lost the ability to listen to one another and work to find a middle ground. God knows the nation's people will never be unified by force. Is there a tiny morsel of mutual respect left.

At what point does the article lose fact and become opinion?   
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Re: Invasion
« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2024, 07:36:57 PM »
Quote from: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 07:05:05 PM
At what point does the article lose fact and become opinion?

The Border Act would not secure the border.

It's opinion because the definition of a secure border varies from person to person. And most know that THE HILL is extremely right wing.
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« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2024, 07:51:31 PM »
Quote from: Busher on March 22, 2024, 07:36:57 PM
The Border Act would not secure the border.

 And most know that THE HILL is extremely right wing.
Extremely right wing is the only way that matters to them and everyone that lives differently is an enemy and needs to be eliminated.
Is basically what I gather from their cult.
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Re: Invasion
« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2024, 07:52:55 PM »
Quote from: Busher on March 22, 2024, 07:36:57 PM
The Border Act would not secure the border.

It's opinion because the definition of a secure border varies from person to person. And most know that THE HILL is extremely right wing.

Exactly.  No border (when politically necessary) is the democrat's border policy and why the house shot this pile of watermelon down.  Why was the border opened in the first place?   
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« Reply #67 on: March 22, 2024, 07:54:56 PM »
Quote from: Tracerfi on March 22, 2024, 07:51:31 PM
Extremely right wing is the only way that matters to them and everyone that lives differently is an enemy and needs to be eliminated.
Is basically what I gather from their cult.
 

Critique the bill for us then.  Also, why was the border opened up to illegals in the first place?
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« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2024, 07:57:36 PM »
Quote from: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 07:52:55 PM
Exactly.  No border (when politically necessary) is the democrat's border policy and why the house shot this pile of watermelon down.  Why was the border opened in the first place?

To create an event that would magically cause the election to be halted in a time of crisis or national emergency to ensure the ones in power will stay in power at all costs. Bet that comment gets reported by the same person again
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Re: Invasion
« Reply #69 on: March 22, 2024, 08:05:22 PM »
Quote from: Busher on March 22, 2024, 06:59:59 PM
What scares me more is the division in the country. Sides are so polarized that I am losing sight of any path back to negotiated harmony. Sides have  lost the ability to listen to one another and work to find a middle ground. God knows the nation's people will never be unified by force. Is there a tiny morsel of mutual respect left.

The people who are think they know better then me and want to dictate everything in my life are pushing me towards polarization.

That said, Kennedy would probably have been too far right for the currently Republican party and people like some of the members of "the squad" would be probably be left of Lenin.
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« Reply #70 on: March 22, 2024, 08:09:19 PM »
Quote from: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 07:54:56 PM
 

Critique the bill for us then.  Also, why was the border opened up to illegals in the first place?
The US as it is today is mainly made up of immigrants that came over 50-100+ years ago right? The US is suppose to be a safe place for everyone including immigrants that want to come here legally I agree that there is a problem right now but unless you want to put machine guns on the border which won't happen and even if it did they have traveled hundreds  of miles to get away from violence in their countries so I can see why they do it not that it is okay.
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Re: Invasion
« Reply #71 on: March 22, 2024, 08:15:55 PM »
Quote from: RUSH1 on March 22, 2024, 07:52:55 PM
Exactly.  No border (when politically necessary) is the democrat's border policy and why the house shot this pile of watermelon down.  Why was the border opened in the first place?

The border was not opened. The legislation to close it never existed. It had been closed under Title 42 by Executive Order under the auspices of a national health emergency.. specifically Covid. When the national health emergency ended, the Executive Order became mute. The nation is still a democracy (for a while yet anyway) and national policy is determined by the Congress not the White House.
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Re: Invasion
« Reply #72 on: March 22, 2024, 08:21:47 PM »
Quote from: hazmatt on March 22, 2024, 08:05:22 PM
The people who are think they know better then me and want to dictate everything in my life are pushing me towards polarization.

That said, Kennedy would probably have been too far right for the currently Republican party and people like some of the members of "the squad" would be probably be left of Lenin.

I had this conversation with a friend the other day.  There's no way JFK or MLK would support the democrat party today.  Not a chance.   
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« Reply #73 on: March 22, 2024, 08:26:47 PM »
Quote from: Tracerfi on March 22, 2024, 08:09:19 PM
The US as it is today is mainly made up of immigrants that came over 50-100+ years ago right? The US is suppose to be a safe place for everyone including immigrants that want to come here legally I agree that there is a problem right now but unless you want to put machine guns on the border which won't happen and even if it did they have traveled hundreds  of miles to get away from violence in their countries so I can see why they do it not that it is okay.

Except that our immigration policies today do not mirror those of 100 years ago?   
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« Reply #74 on: March 22, 2024, 08:40:19 PM »
Quote from: Busher on March 22, 2024, 08:15:55 PM
The border was not opened. The legislation to close it never existed. It had been closed under Title 42 by Executive Order under the auspices of a national health emergency.. specifically Covid. When the national health emergency ended, the Executive Order became mute. The nation is still a democracy (for a while yet anyway) and national policy is determined by the Congress not the White House.

So you're admitting that the border is not being enforced under Biden? 
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