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Offline Pluto

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Re: Lets call it strange observation
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2024, 04:06:47 PM »
For the record: targeting individuals no matter where they fly, for whatever country they are on, is why so many players have left, including myself.

That sounds like something a modern journalist, with an agenda, would write.  Maybe that's true for the few that had egos to maintain, but I would say the 1v8, race for the kill hordes, and general lame game play is what caused most to leave.

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Re: Lets call it strange observation
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2024, 04:30:58 PM »
Hey All <S>,
 returned to the game and have been enjoying it, but have found the community to be pretty hostile to be fair. I have always been a Rook and so has my father, Havoc.
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Re: Lets call it strange observation
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2024, 04:59:03 PM »
Thanks for the support Animl-AW..it's just a game.. :airplane:

If my repeated demise on yt brings new players to the game, I am all for it..sky you go girl! lol

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Re: Lets call it strange observation
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2024, 05:55:43 PM »
That sounds like something a modern journalist, with an agenda, would write.  Maybe that's true for the few that had egos to maintain, but I would say the 1v8, race for the kill hordes, and general lame game play is what caused most to leave.

 And then when you kill them a few times they change fronts and the only fight between those two countries dies....
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Re: Lets call it strange observation
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2024, 06:08:12 PM »
but I would say the 1v8, race for the kill hordes, and general lame game play is what caused most to leave.
I blame most of that on proximity dar. Makes it incredibly easy for peeps to pick and avoid any kind of consequences.
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Re: Lets call it strange observation
« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2024, 10:12:02 PM »
Thanks for the support Animl-AW..it's just a game.. :airplane:

If my repeated demise on yt brings new players to the game, I am all for it..sky you go girl! lol

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Re: Lets call it strange observation
« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2024, 01:15:10 AM »
I blame most of that on proximity dar. Makes it incredibly easy for peeps to pick and avoid any kind of consequences.

The dot dar I find to be preferable, showing the direction of planes makes fighting the horde even more difficult. I doubt we’d see a change back to it but it had some element of fog of war.
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Re: Lets call it strange observation
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2024, 07:39:43 AM »
That sounds like something a modern journalist, with an agenda, would write.  Maybe that's true for the few that had egos to maintain, but I would say the 1v8, race for the kill hordes, and general lame game play is what caused most to leave.

What kills me about players leaving bc lame game play is, compared to other sims where they go,….its worse. Frankly, there are irritants in every game, but I have a good time in AH, maybe because I’m not trying to be a pilot god. Different perspective.

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Re: Lets call it strange observation
« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2024, 08:52:02 AM »
The dot dar I find to be preferable, showing the direction of planes makes fighting the horde even more difficult. I doubt we’d see a change back to it but it had some element of fog of war.
It’s not the radar icons and direction of flight I’m referring to. It’s the fact that every plane and vehicle in game is an awacs now. It eliminates any fog at all and allows people to dog pile on single cons as well avoid fights that aren’t in their favor. It also detracts from the advantage radar towers deliver. Hell, you don’t even need to look out the window or rock your wings to know exactly where enemies are.
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Re: Lets call it strange observation
« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2024, 08:55:52 AM »
Regardless what the dar settings are seems to me that allowing multiple accounts provides the needed work around that can provide the same info..at a higher cost of course...probably why it's permitted imo

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Re: Lets call it strange observation
« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2024, 09:02:23 AM »
The current Dar and current kill messages are ruining any strategy at all in the game. May as well be just be a big match play arena. Once your name shows up that you killed someone, it completely ruins your strategic position. Now they all know it's you and can shape their fighting style to create the advantage over you because you don't know who the players are coming after you. And they can look on the map and be-line it right to your dot on the map. Sigh.

There was never any adjustments made to current Dar. It was either this way or the old way. I didn't like that choice. There should be no dots at all outside of radar range. Bombers should not show as bombers. It completely gives them away. Then you have the resupply crap as well that defeats all purpose.

While sure, the other games don't provide as good of gameplay, yet. They are catching up, and HTCs ignoring poor gameplay is catching up, as we've seen with the poor #s the last 2 months.

I find no reason to play being gamed off my position while in flight when I'm trying to defend or be a strategic fighter to help save a field.

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Re: Lets call it strange observation
« Reply #41 on: August 08, 2024, 09:06:27 AM »
Regardless what the dar settings are seems to me that allowing multiple accounts provides the needed work around that can provide the same info..at a higher cost of course...probably why it's permitted imo

Eagler
It’s apparently allowed as long as you don’t share accounts. There have been multiple account holders for quite some time. Most people appear not to have used it as a gaming advantage. Some. Not so much.
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Re: Lets call it strange observation
« Reply #42 on: August 08, 2024, 09:29:44 AM »
Multiple accounts for kids/family to play in the same house, or for friends to play, or flying them at once is one thing.

Using multiple accounts to game any side at any time to target specific players and see all 3 sides at a whim to see positions is well... ghey.
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Re: Lets call it strange observation
« Reply #43 on: August 08, 2024, 09:49:29 AM »
The current Dar and current kill messages are ruining any strategy at all in the game. May as well be just be a big match play arena. Once your name shows up that you killed someone, it completely ruins your strategic position. Now they all know it's you and can shape their fighting style to create the advantage over you because you don't know who the players are coming after you. And they can look on the map and be-line it right to your dot on the map. Sigh.

There was never any adjustments made to current Dar. It was either this way or the old way. I didn't like that choice. There should be no dots at all outside of radar range. Bombers should not show as bombers. It completely gives them away. Then you have the resupply crap as well that defeats all purpose.

While sure, the other games don't provide as good of gameplay, yet. They are catching up, and HTCs ignoring poor gameplay is catching up, as we've seen with the poor #s the last 2 months.


Same numbers we had last ummer prime time. Its summer. Sept -oct they hopefully start climbing again for high winter numbers. I keep track 110-130, same
I find no reason to play being gamed off my position while in flight when I'm trying to defend or be a strategic fighter to help save a field.

Worst time of yr to estimate numbers.

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Re: Lets call it strange observation
« Reply #44 on: August 08, 2024, 09:51:06 AM »
Using multiple accounts to game any side at any time to target specific players and see all 3 sides at a whim to see positions is well... ghey.

Using accounts to spy while flying on a different country than the one you are flying on is cheating, per Hitech. Using different accounts to switch to a different fight/front  is not.

Like many others have said, switching the side-switch timer to a lesser value would fix the need for multiple accounts. Right now, in-game, there are ZERO fights on the Rook front. ZERO. Someone stuck on Rooks would just have to log out.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2024, 09:54:13 AM by Skyyr »
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