What would get AH growing again

[AKIron]

80 years ago there was a race among warring nations to create a bomb so powerful no one knew whether it might actually destroy all life on this planet. Who knows, it may yet.

[nrshida]

Fear in letting a growing AI, potentially capable of taking control of everything connected to the Internet, should be nurtured.

Ignorant and irrational fear is way more dangerous than what amounts to customer habits, spending, consumption prediction and helping teenages with their essays. The term AI as presently employed as little more than a marketting term, not intelligence as such.

Yes, fear. The survival instinct that comes from understanding we cannot predict what such an AI might be capable of.

As long as data set-trained Neural Networks are being used you can calculate with good accuracy its capabilities & limitations. It's non-deterministic and responses are not explicitly-defined if that's what worries you. But then neither are people. I think you've watched too much low-quality scifi without thinking it through. Does the thought not occur that you might simply flip the power switch to the off position 

Science meets politics is it ?

No I wouldn't use those terms 

[AKIron]

Ignorant and irrational fear is way more dangerous than what amounts to customer habits, spending, consumption prediction and helping teenages with their essays. The term AI as presently employed as little more than a marketting term, not intelligence as such.


As long as data set-trained Neural Networks are being used you can calculate with good accuracy its capabilities & limitations. It's non-deterministic and responses are not explicitly-defined if that's what worries you. But then neither are people. I think you've watched too much low-quality scifi without thinking it through. Does the thought not occur that you might simply flip the power switch to the off position 


No I wouldn't use those terms 

I've worked with electronic systems (radar) and IT since 1977. I know how to program in a few languages. I have a degree in electronics. I'm not ignorant in this. People who think they can control things they do not fully understand worry me.

[AKIron]

People who think they understand everything worry me even more. But whatever. We'll likely all die in a nuclear inferno before AI cuts the power.

[nrshida]

I've worked with electronic systems (radar) and IT since 1977. I know how to program in a few languages. I have a degree in electronics.

Good, you can help me with my valve amp project

People who think they can control things they do not fully understand worry me.

Me too. Especially the typical European BMW-driver 

[JimmyD3]

Just an small comment here. While I am no PHD holding guru and not very well educated, just on ole country boy, the possibility of a "Terminator Movie" scenario might be a little far fetched. But don't ever underestimate the human capacity to develop more and more destructive technologies. Our current technology was not dreamed of 100 years ago. 

[AKIron]

Good, you can help me with my valve amp project

Me too. Especially the typical European BMW-driver 

We call 'em "tubes" on this side of the pond. First systems I worked were loaded with 'em.

[DmonSlyr]

From another thread.

While I wish more people were proactive at evening things up, and not seeking easy kills on another team being hit in force by the 3rd country... I agree, I find this a lot of fun after 25 years.

I think I landed nearly 30 262 kills in 2 sorties last night just fighting the herds.

That being said, if you are someone who is looking for good fights, and not dealing with guys in speed demons, get out of the mob.  If I'm flying in 30 vs 3 odds I'm normally not going to roll a p38 or a 109 and try to survive multiple dozens of 450mph pick attempts.

I find that base defense is severely lacking. It seems teams are just okay with allowing hoards to take over fields. This is because every one has an attack strategy of AH, but not a defense strategy. This is why you see everyone in BnZ boredom planes than learning how to use defense tactics in non BnZ planes to defend bases and have better battles.

Once people get out of the noob BnZ easy planes, learn some defense style planes and both teams stop ganging one side, than you'll start to see much better action in the MA and see the #s grow.

[Animl-AW]

From another thread.

I find that base defense is severely lacking. It seems teams are just okay with allowing hoards to take over fields. This is because every one has an attack strategy of AH, but not a defense strategy. This is why you see everyone in BnZ boredom planes than learning how to use defense tactics in non BnZ planes to defend bases and have better battles.

Once people get out of the noob BnZ easy planes, learn some defense style planes and both teams stop ganging one side, than you'll start to see much better action in the MA and see the #s grow.

If these easy planes are so easy, how is it I'm killed in one almost every sortie?

Best defense is offense.

A mobile phone screen on the dash would be a great game seller. If they could text and fly they wouldn't care about distance, nor ramming or HOs. <nods>

Problem solved! I knew I'd save the day. <wipes hands and walks away>

[DmonSlyr]

If these easy planes are so easy, how is it I'm killed in one almost every sortie?

Best defense is offense.

A mobile phone screen on the dash would be a great game seller. If they could text and fly they wouldn't care about distance, nor ramming or HOs. <nods>

Problem solved! I knew I'd save the day. <wipes hands and walks away>

Well... any man can take $1,000 and waste it...

A good offense yes, but you need a coordinated team for that.

"Muh $15" and "coordinated teamwork" is just about an oxymoron.

However both sides ganging one side in super mode planes doesn't do a whole lot to build #s, is what Lazer and I are trying to say. However, flying a 262 to compensate the hoard also doesn't benefit the gameplay very much either so there's a lot of imbalance right now, IMO, but you can't really blame em.

[Animl-AW]

Well... any man can take $1,000 and waste it...

A good offense yes, but you need a coordinated team for that.

"Muh $15" and "coordinated teamwork" is just about an oxymoron.

However both sides ganging one side in super mode planes doesn't do a whole lot to build #s, is what Lazer and I are trying to say. However, flying a 262 to compensate the hoard also doesn't benefit the gameplay very much either so there's a lot of imbalance right now, IMO, but you can't really blame em.

As I stated my opinion before. gameplay revolves around numbers, and it changes from dweeble mode to battles once you passed 110. The more numbers the more the game gets on track and some settings make sense.

Agreed, we have dweebles who gang bang a country that has little defense, which like last night the victims logged. Counter productive.

We have people who complain about numbers then do everything that chances them away.

[AKIron]

Has anyone done a Twitch stream? View of the person flying inset? That's as likely to draw as anything short of revamping the product.


I see there are a few.

[AKIron]

A continuing stream with different players signing up to take over and stepping in as needed could be interesting. Ya gotta talk through it. Not really interesting to watch someone roll and climb and dive and roll and climb and....

Say what you're thinking. That can be interesting. Especially if/when you screw up.