Re- instate The Draft

[Zimme83]

What do you need basic soldiering for? When was the last time that was needed on US ground? 

To deal with Denmark and the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth i assume.

[Tracerfi]

The draft is always suggested by those who don’t have to do it.

Yep

[Eagler]

Yep

That goes for the entire war experience doesn't it
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Eagler

[Maverick]

Outside of actual conflict, the majority of suggestions for the draft are merely a suggestion to correct poor or nonexistent parenting. The military is really not the proper place to expect a person to mature into a productive and adult part of society. The old canard of go into the military or go to jail by a judge is just kicking the can down the road and forcing the military to be a "parent". Assuming the miscreant can actually qualify for service.

[AKIron]

The draft ended about a month before I joined up in Aug '73. The military was good for a lot of kids like me who didn't want to go to college yet or couldn't afford it. Got paid while learning a trade and earning the GI Bill. It could be good again some day.

[Zimme83]

Outside of actual conflict, the majority of suggestions for the draft are merely a suggestion to correct poor or nonexistent parenting. The military is really not the proper place to expect a person to mature into a productive and adult part of society. The old canard of go into the military or go to jail by a judge is just kicking the can down the road and forcing the military to be a "parent". Assuming the miscreant can actually qualify for service.

Agree. Its just a "kids nowadays" thing, and forcing unmotivated people into the armed forces just because you think they need to grow up will not result in anything good.

[Shuffler]

I had the ceiling fans on last night and there was plenty of draft.

[DmonSlyr]

That's why they should have basic defense training and outdoors skills classes for all kids entering 6th grade and all teens entering 11th grade. Robotics and drone classes as a secondary as well.

This would increase discipline. Reduce bullying. Give kids some really useful real life skills. Get them interested in the military perhaps. Grow respect for their country and classmates. And If really solid in 11th grade, help them get into military basic training programs once in 12th grade by the age of 18. This would 100% make us the best military and have a much more mechanically functioning society.

[RUSH1]

Outside of actual conflict, the majority of suggestions for the draft are merely a suggestion to correct poor or nonexistent parenting. The military is really not the proper place to expect a person to mature into a productive and adult part of society. The old canard of go into the military or go to jail by a judge is just kicking the can down the road and forcing the military to be a "parent". Assuming the miscreant can actually qualify for service.

Sounds like our education system.   

[Animl-AW]

Outside of actual conflict, the majority of suggestions for the draft are merely a suggestion to correct poor or nonexistent parenting. The military is really not the proper place to expect a person to mature into a productive and adult part of society. The old canard of go into the military or go to jail by a judge is just kicking the can down the road and forcing the military to be a "parent". Assuming the miscreant can actually qualify for service.

Yep I agree
Here’s the problem.
Who raised them? We did. Many of my generation screwed up. Too much pampering, virtually no discipline,  too much gaming instead of learning to adapt to the world around them.

Lets not blame them for our faults, they aren’t as bad as some I grew up with.
My/our generation were not perfect angels at the same age. In fact, in a few ways worse.

Kids learn from what they are taught and see.

So, we need to be honest and ask ourselves, where did they learn bad habits before they found the street? A person’s personality is rooted by 5 yrs old.

I don’t care to look down on them fir our mistakes.

[AKIron]

I raised my kids. I didn't raise yours. Only one of my 12 of my grandkids is ineligible for military service and that because he was born deaf. Well, the youngest is only 5 and the next 15 so I guess 3 are ineligible.

[Animl-AW]

It was a general statement. I don’t care for blanket answers, everyone and situation is individual.

Forcing a good natured young to kill so we feel better about then is not the way.

My nephews (brothers) were marines in Golf and Iraq. One did 4 tours. His picture was on newsweek mag. He was in places like Fallujah. He wasn’t forced, and thats the point. It should be an individual’s decision.

I didn’t think it was worth it to see him come back gritting his teeth.  Forcing anyone to kill is kinda ill. When someone who’s seen action says it I’ll listen to their points.