Danial Penny

[1Cane]

If someone confronted, you and said "Someone is going to die" who would you chose?
I would choose my mother's oldest son stays alive. I think Mr. Penny showed courage and acted with great restraint. His training was much better as a Marine vs mine in the Army. All I learned in hand to hand was if you can't stab them with bayonet, club them with your M14.
                                                   

[Eagler]

Think the subway needs men in white coats with strong tazers/ tranquilizers as they seem to be overloaded with the mentally insane..or an armed guard every other car..

Eagler

[sparky127]

Seems the large cities in general are overrun with the mentally ill and another common theme is local judicial systems who are reluctant to prosecute... unless someone decides to stand their ground and protect themselves.  It seems the underlying theme is that you may not defend yourself and the lawless are free to act with impunity. 

I'm sure I'm about to be set straight.

[Eagler]

State run insane asylum need to be reinstated

It's now an arrestable offense in Florida to sleep out in public/on the streets..

I guess the jails will be filled with the homeless..insane or otherwise..

Eagler

[DmonSlyr]

State run insane asylum need to be reinstated

It's now an arrestable offense in Florida to sleep out in public/on the streets..

I guess the jails will be filled with the homeless..insane or otherwise..

Eagler

Just need Healthcare farms. Pick them up, take them to the farm. Rehabilitation and pick fruit until they can save for apartment with an address, then find real work programs through the farm now that they have an address. It's the only way. Some can't be saved unfortunately, but they should not be allowed to trash the streets and scare people while on drugs either.

[icepac]

I’m surprised he chose to study Jiu Jitsu with his proportions.

[RUSH1]

Unlike decades ago, I believe that most of the homeless today are far from insane.  They're addicts.  Hopefully our (FL) new laws shine some light on this probability.  I'm all for helping the mentally ill, but not enabling simple addicts while also exacerbating the problem like we see so many states doing today.   
 

[Animl-AW]

Seems the large cities in general are overrun with the mentally ill and another common theme is local judicial systems who are reluctant to prosecute... unless someone decides to stand their ground and protect themselves.  It seems the underlying theme is that you may not defend yourself and the lawless are free to act with impunity. 

I'm sure I'm about to be set straight.

Maybe per capita.
A small rural town I lived in for 3 yrs w a GF seemed to have problems. It was fairly common to run into the mentally challenged

I saw a lot in Chicago too.

Whats something that both had in common? Lead water pipes. That town had constant readouts of lead levels.

I know this as experience as a kid working for a huge plumbing company in the 80s, I was delivering a lot of lead pipe coils. Chicago has many more lead piping than Flint MI.

3weeks ago I got notice from my current town of small amounts of lead. But since invented I’ve filtered all water I consume through carbon filters. But also our house had well water all coper piping.

Some historians say, because Rome used lead pipes it may have contributed to their fall.

Lead harms the brain.

Bad diet also starves the brain of certain things it needs, some comes from fats. People who go on harsh starvation diets can be starving the brain too.

Top that with the human DNA is fraying. Or was stated so years ago.

Humans are getting creepy.

[Chris79]

If someone confronted, you and said "Someone is going to die" who would you chose?
I would choose my mother's oldest son stays alive. I think Mr. Penny showed courage and acted with great restraint. His training was much better as a Marine vs mine in the Army. All I learned in hand to hand was if you can't stab them with bayonet, club them with your M14.
                                                   

I remember being taught that particular choke hold. If memory serves, you can loose consciousness from 10-20 seconds, brain damage after a minute, and possibly death after 2 minutes. That was a blood choke.

[LCADolby]

If someone confronted, you and said "Someone is going to die" who would you chose?

Them, everytime.

[Chris79]

If someone confronted, you and said "Someone is going to die" who would you chose?
I would choose my mother's oldest son stays alive. I think Mr. Penny showed courage and acted with great restraint. His training was much better as a Marine vs mine in the Army. All I learned in hand to hand was if you can't stab them with bayonet, club them with your M14.
                                                   

[Maverick]

IMO the charges should never have been raised. The murder charge was egregious and not supported by the video and witness statements. It is indeed fortunate that so many witnesses DID stay and render a statement to the Police as well as the video showing the perp still struggling during the alleged choke hold. From what I saw in the brief news video was that Penny did not use a "choke hold" he used a hold meant to maintain control of the perp. I saw no attempt to cut off either blood or air just maintaining control of the idiot's head. That to me is supported by other folk(s) holding down the idiot's arms and legs. Had a real choke hold been successfully used he would have been out in seconds and not thrashing around.

I had brief training in Judo for a frontal and back choke hold and a refresher in the academy about how to use one as well as a warning to only use it when in a likely lethal force intervention. Why? Because of the possibility that compressing the arteries and veins enough to deny blood to the brain may cause them to not open up or to swell blocking the flow and killing / brain damaging the person