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Offline Eagler

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Re: typical morning but more so
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2024, 07:40:07 AM »
Cough 2 countries...cough..

And smaller maps would go along way with reinvigorate the action..

Usually around 100 at peak each night...the numbers aren't the problem, it's the current configuration with present numbers that doesn't work anymore imo

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Re: typical morning but more so
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2024, 09:25:34 AM »
Cough 2 countries...cough..

Personally, I am all for this concept.
I do however know the game would change drastically and sadly, you would end up getting a bunch of whines and canceled subscriptions.

Having the 3rd country gives you a wild card that can be both good and bad. Good as if intended, give split and even attention on both fronts or bad having 1 country ganged by the other 2.

2 countries would ultimately make maps stagnant as I am sure fields and fronts would have much more attention as you can pretty much anticipate where they are going to hit. Once unable to take bases at the rate it is going now, most would just get bored and quit
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Re: typical morning but more so
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2024, 09:51:34 AM »
Exhausted subjects.

Prime-time should be our focus. Any change should cater more to that time and crowd.

>IMO<

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Re: typical morning but more so
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2024, 10:31:12 AM »
Exhausted subjects.
Prime-time should be our focus. Any change should cater more to that time and crowd.

>IMO<
tl;dnr - settings won't pull more people in, gameplay will.

Morning play sets the tone for the day... this spills over into primetime and goes against your desires to increase players (entertainment value.) 

No one likes logging in to feast or famine which is what evening primetime has started to solidify into as a result of map position (gameplay) earlier in the day.

I think this screenshot is somewhat telling because I've been on this very subject for about 2+ years now and is 100% why people started abusing .rpt - I kept calling out this weebsauce.   You're even seeing my anklehumpers, lazer, flippz and our boi in the screenshot starting to make these observations. I guess the difference is they let more people shoot them down than I do.  :noid :rofl

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Re: typical morning but more so
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2024, 11:44:14 AM »
Building up off hours leads to a better prime time. It's all about keeping people in the game with big battles. No battles, people leave. No off hours battles lead to less players in prime time. Players also leave earlier in prime time if the battles aren't good. It takes all sides to make battles. If there is no defense, there is no battle. If no defense, people leave and let the hoard take their bases and it's just a hoard vs nothing. Every one flying around in circles waiting for some unlucky guy to roll they can gang in their spit16s and 190Ds 15 on 1. Whats the point?

Big maps don't create battles in the off hours with 25 players and normally have a smaller prime time because of it. Been playing for 17 years, I know how this stuff works and have seen this trend for a while.  :old:
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Re: typical morning but more so
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2024, 12:10:16 PM »
Building up off hours leads to a better prime time. It's all about keeping people in the game with big battles. No battles, people leave. No off hours battles lead to less players in prime time. Players also leave earlier in prime time if the battles aren't good. It takes all sides to make battles. If there is no defense, there is no battle. If no defense, people leave and let the hoard take their bases and it's just a hoard vs nothing. Every one flying around in circles waiting for some unlucky guy to roll they can gang in their spit16s and 190Ds 15 on 1. Whats the point?

Big maps don't create battles in the off hours with 25 players and normally have a smaller prime time because of it. Been playing for 17 years, I know how this stuff works and have seen this trend for a while.  :old:

This happened in AW too. Those maps were smaller. Ya didn’t notice it so much before because numbers were higher. The mentality is always there, is there numbers to stop it or not.

I’d like 3-4 maps removed, nothing based on size. Its about the gamey look.

Within two week we will re-run morning game play, mods, maps and payment methods. <Lays $50 on the table>, bet me.

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Re: typical morning but more so
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2024, 12:13:54 PM »
I think the morning Bish horde would also quit the game if you evened the numbers without any game changes  :)

 :rofl :rofl I was thinking the same.
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Re: typical morning but more so
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2024, 01:03:18 PM »
I see not so much has changed on my 'daytime'. I think it'd be really funny on these moments if everyone switched to Bish. They'd be flying Gloster Gladiators and throwing water bombs by hand unopposed and still saying wtg to each other  :rofl

What a bunch of EZ-mode freaks.

Playing Devi's advocate here but have you ever seen the Knight/Rook morning crew? Bish have outnumbered both and I have often logged in to see people on the opposite side of where the horde is. I just dont get it but I kind of do get it.

Fighting the AM horde can either be like whack a mole where they jump from place to place or 1 vs 15 and the 15 being relentless and dying a hundred times. It gets stale.
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Re: typical morning but more so
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2024, 01:27:21 PM »
Maybe stop playing the game 24/7/365?




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Re: typical morning but more so
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2024, 01:29:22 PM »
see people on the opposite side of where the horde is.

Can't say I blame them.

Fighting the AM horde can either be like whack a mole where they jump from place to place or 1 vs 15 and the 15 being relentless and dying a hundred times. It gets stale.

Indeed it does. Stale to the point of quitting. If there was only an arena were people could just go to dogfight. Over a lake maybe...
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Re: typical morning but more so
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2024, 01:44:14 PM »
These guys are not here to play the game.  The game they are playing isn't what made aces high fun.

I've had more memorable nights in h2h arenas when the hook was first set on me.

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Re: typical morning but more so
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2024, 02:09:19 PM »
Finetime had a good idea to go after strats and HQ and hope map resets before prime time.

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Re: typical morning but more so
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2024, 09:34:08 AM »
This is what it is on top of what it is.  Some people keep pointing to two sides, two sides... when it practically already is.  :noid

Bish swarm doing their all-in vs knits. Rooks joining in on it - by hitting knits strats  :rofl and, well, darbars showing nothing happening on bish/rook (yet) as rooks continue to hit knit bases.

Bish just got 20% knit (9:30am cst) bases, let's see how this plays out. 

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Re: typical morning but more so
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2024, 10:11:58 AM »
This is what it is on top of what it is.  Some people keep pointing to two sides, two sides... when it practically already is.  :noid

Bish swarm doing their all-in vs knits. Rooks joining in on it - by hitting knits strats  :rofl and, well, darbars showing nothing happening on bish/rook (yet) as rooks continue to hit knit bases.

Bish just got 20% knit (9:30am cst) bases, let's see how this plays out. 



Just because I’m caffeined up.

Agreed, more often than not, Knits get banged, even though they usually have lower numbers.
Yep, irritating as sin.

I kinda studied this irritation looking for patterns as to why.

But there is a flipside.

What >I< see, as often as that happens, the opposite happens. They fight each other and we can’t find a fight. My reckless assumption is they fight each other for 1-3 days, then both take a break for change and fight us.

Also noted, in the last 1.5 weeks, at least on night each, got their clocks cleaned by being ganged.

Me thinks its what is the rotation today.

That said, knits seem to take it more often.

The 2 country talk is not new, its 35 yrs old, it just doesn’t work all that well in multiplayer, and just a goldfish who repeats pecking at the wall of a fish bowl, forgetting the last 1000 times didn’t work.

The morning thing is also at least 30 yrs old. It just comes much more apparent  and able when numbers dip below like 60. Most issues for same reason.

Yrs ago, when there was say 150 in morning there was too many for it to happen.

No tweak for that issue is going to happen. So the only answer left is getting numbers up past critical mass. Chase no one away.:)

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Re: typical morning but more so
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2024, 11:08:32 AM »
rooks continue to hit knit bases.



This just makes me  :rofl :rofl.
The horde of 18 is getting in to one front yet I see friendlies either in bombers for hours to trying to milk rook bases.
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