typical morning but more so

[AKIron]

Nonsense.

Your approach is either passive aggressive power of suggestion or projection. Enough. You've already painted your own picture.

Nothing passive about me and you don't decide what's enough.

[Animl-AW]

Nothing passive about me and you don't decide what's enough.

Go find bigfoot, Troll

I can take this to your neighborhood, I still have access.

[hazmatt]

If your talking about my post, all I was pointing out was compare apples to apples. Saying a game is "massive" in numbers because it has a lot of numbers over a bunch of places isnt the same as the numbers AH pulls in it one main arena. 65 players in the sim arena is still less than AH100-110, and the scenario arena set for 128, does it ever come close to that number?

Im sure many players do defend AH because we love this game. But many come in here pushing other games but never fairly. Some are disgruntled with Aces High for one reason or another, others have their issues with HTC real or believed, so yes there is a lot of players "defending" here.

As for why AH doesnt keep bringing in numbers...... Im thinking not enough people know what AH has. You said players dumb down the graphics on those other games..... so its not the graphics here. My bet is they dont even bother to look. Too many negative posts about poor game play/graphics/and so on. All AH needs really is another 100 players on always. That would be 130-150 Euro prime time, 200-220 East coast prime time. Getting past all the negative post is the problem.

It won't launch until it has 128 players. It's the same for the 64 and 32 player games. It launches the fight when the needed number of players is met.

Right, but "defending" against somebody that is trying to help doesn't make sense to me. There is no perfect game. All have their plusses and minuses. I'm trying to help by offering constructive criticism based on what I've seen.

I agree with you about the graphics. I don't think the graphics are a big deal talking to others in games with "perdy planes" that can't see them because they don't have the hardware required to see them. It seems more common then not that they are playing on settings that would very limit what they could see.

 As I've stated before I think the subscription is the thing that most can't get past. Let me give you an example. In one of those other games you earn these things call "convertible research points" These are points that can be used to upgrade your plane or used to buy newer higher level planes. Most people have millions of these CRP that they have never used. It's because using them would require a payment and lots of guys only play the game because it's free. I'm merely trying to point out stuff like this because of the massive numbers this payment model has. Most people won't pay for CRP but almost everyone there pays for "premium planes" I for one have bought many "premium planes" but have spent very little on CRP.

I'm sure this will stir up another poop storm but I am trying to help by pointing out things that I never knew and have recently learned to people who were probably in the same situation now as I was before.

[Animl-AW]

It won't launch until it has 128 players. It's the same for the 64 and 32 player games. It launches the fight when the needed number of players is met.

Right, but "defending" against somebody that is trying to help doesn't make sense to me. There is no perfect game. All have their plusses and minuses. I'm trying to help by offering constructive criticism based on what I've seen.

I agree with you about the graphics. I don't think the graphics are a big deal talking to others in games with "perdy planes" that can't see them because they don't have the hardware required to see them. It seems more common then not that they are playing on settings that would very limit what they could see.

 As I've stated before I think the subscription is the thing that most can't get past. Let me give you an example. In one of those other games you earn these things call "convertible research points" These are points that can be used to upgrade your plane or used to buy newer higher level planes. Most people have millions of these CRP that they have never used. It's because using them would require a payment and lots of guys only play the game because it's free. I'm merely trying to point out stuff like this because of the massive numbers this payment model has. Most people won't pay for CRP but almost everyone there pays for "premium planes" I for one have bought many "premium planes" but have spent very little on CRP.

I'm sure this will stir up another poop storm but I am trying to help by pointing out things that I never knew and have recently learned to people who were probably in the same situation now as I was before.

Funny how those salesmen intensionally leave out major points. They hate me for a reason, and its not bc I’m a bad guy. Its bc I call out BS.

I don’t take your comments as trying to to stir the pot just to stir the pot. Lotta people complain about subs.

My question might be, would they really play it had it been changed?

There’s just some things I won’t say in open air.

[Spikes]

Right, but "defending" against somebody that is trying to help doesn't make sense to me. There is no perfect game. All have their plusses and minuses. I'm trying to help by offering constructive criticism based on what I've seen.

 As I've stated before I think the subscription is the thing that most can't get past. Let me give you an example. In one of those other games you earn these things call "convertible research points" These are points that can be used to upgrade your plane or used to buy newer higher level planes. Most people have millions of these CRP that they have never used. It's because using them would require a payment and lots of guys only play the game because it's free. I'm merely trying to point out stuff like this because of the massive numbers this payment model has. Most people won't pay for CRP but almost everyone there pays for "premium planes" I for one have bought many "premium planes" but have spent very little on CRP.

I don't think subscription is necessarily an outdated model. We all pay subscriptions every day for services (Prime, Netflix, etc). If something is worth the price to someone, they'll be willing to pay for it. All of the F2P games you're referring to (WT, WoT, WoWS) are also inherently subscription based in terms of premium, anyway. They just have a F2P element that won't realistically work with how AH is designed.

Being upset that someone is defending a game on that game's own forum is comical.

[GOODBYE]

The premium piece of games like WoT is what keeps me away from them. You want me to grind for literal months to get a good plane when I can just jump into AH and have access to almost anything I want. And if I want something better, it’s very easy to work on perks and get that bigger/badder plane or tank. I personally just think the game is missing advertisement… if you don’t have the eyes then you can’t have the players. The fact that people leave and immediately come back (myself included) speaks volumes to immersion of the game along with the closeness of the community

Merry Christmas everyone!

[~ZoSo~]

Will someone explain to me why people that don’t play this game anymore keep (more or less) running it down in here? I’ve heard some compare it playing checkers etc. Why are you still here? I’ve tried DCS. It’s not worth the learning curve as far as I’m concerned. Finding decent servers… Forget that. Same for IL2. For all of its shortcomings, AH3 for the win. It’s what keeps you coming back.   

[fudgums]

Will someone explain to me why people that don’t play this game anymore keep (more or less) running it down in here? I’ve heard some compare it playing checkers etc. Why are you still here? I’ve tried DCS. It’s not worth the learning curve as far as I’m concerned. Finding decent servers… Forget that. Same for IL2. For all of its shortcomings, AH3 for the win. It’s what keeps you coming back.   

Misery loves company.

[Animl-AW]

Misery loves company.

is that like an "my game sucks more than yours" one-up?

[Animl-AW]

I don't think subscription is necessarily an outdated model. We all pay subscriptions every day for services (Prime, Netflix, etc). If something is worth the price to someone, they'll be willing to pay for it. All of the F2P games you're referring to (WT, WoT, WoWS) are also inherently subscription based in terms of premium, anyway. They just have a F2P element that won't realistically work with how AH is designed.

Being upset that someone is defending a game on that game's own forum is comical.

I realize I should let this message scroll down.

But I don’t get it, SORTA. Its one thing to quit a game but return to the forums because you still have friends here. But, the way some are here to passive aggressively berate the game or me and promote your own in every subject it can be wedged in, it reminds me, if I break up with a GF, I don’t go stand in her yard berating her. People who do are mentally goofed. This mentality is like the “friend” in your home who calls ya buddy buddy buddy while they stand next to your wife, arm around her shoulder, grabbing her breast. These are not friends they are dishonest brokers. Would you not shove them out?

After the 128 page of their dog pooping in our yard was removed, suddenly they don’t have much to contribute. You know their intensions. Its not rocket science.

These are things 15 yr olds do. You expect it. When its 60-70 yr olds men it makes one think about sanity, which they try very hard to project themselves onto me to hide it. Obviously thinking everyone else has real low IQ. We saw that in this thread. The guy who openly points out BS, his credibility must be attacked. Its nothing new nor creative in human nature.

The guy trying to help is negative, and skimming players is a positive you should accept.  It’s for your own good, because we “care”. <blank stare> This is kid stuff, Juvenal. Not wisemen.

“”We hold the game close to our heat” - BS, your game you’re skimming for is close to your heart.

We had this problem with WB players coming to AW forums doing the same exact thing. I’ve seen it before, I know what it looks like. Same script.

If some don’t like what it took to get it gone, then I apologize for what I perceived as fighting the good fight. I took the heat for it, and I’m ok with it. Not my first BBQ.

As far as me going to their forum, I see no problem with throwing the dog poop they left in our yard and throwing it back in their yard.

Remember the ones whi stated; “you can’t stop me (us)”? Hold my beer.

I don’t think that was hazmat’s intensions.

Sorry for keeping the thread alive.

Lets work on getting back on track working on numbers.

[AKIron]

Will someone explain to me why people that don’t play this game anymore keep (more or less) running it down in here? I’ve heard some compare it playing checkers etc. Why are you still here? I’ve tried DCS. It’s not worth the learning curve as far as I’m concerned. Finding decent servers… Forget that. Same for IL2. For all of its shortcomings, AH3 for the win. It’s what keeps you coming back.   

Troll. Probably an animl shade.

[Animl-AW]

Troll. Probably an animl shade.

Sad attempt.
Animl has one single account in bbs and in game.

YOU are the troll, your fav tool of projecting yourself.
You make my point for me every time.

Grow up. Seriously.

[AKIron]

Exactly what a troll would say.

[Bear76]

I realize I should let this message scroll down.

But I don’t get it, SORTA. Its one thing to quit a game but return to the forums because you still have friends here. But, the way some are here to passive aggressively berate the game or me and promote your own in every subject it can be wedged in, it reminds me, if I break up with a GF, I don’t go stand in her yard berating her. People who do are mentally goofed. This mentality is like the “friend” in your home who calls ya buddy buddy buddy while they stand next to your wife, arm around her shoulder, grabbing her breast. These are not friends they are dishonest brokers. Would you not shove them out?

After the 128 page of their dog pooping in our yard was removed, suddenly they don’t have much to contribute. You know their intensions. Its not rocket science.

These are things 15 yr olds do. You expect it. When its 60-70 yr olds men it makes one think about sanity, which they try very hard to project themselves onto me to hide it. Obviously thinking everyone else has real low IQ. We saw that in this thread. The guy who openly points out BS, his credibility must be attacked. Its nothing new nor creative in human nature.

The guy trying to help is negative, and skimming players is a positive you should accept.  It’s for your own good, because we “care”. <blank stare> This is kid stuff, Juvenal. Not wisemen.

“”We hold the game close to our heat” - BS, your game you’re skimming for is close to your heart.

We had this problem with WB players coming to AW forums doing the same exact thing. I’ve seen it before, I know what it looks like. Same script.

If some don’t like what it took to get it gone, then I apologize for what I perceived as fighting the good fight. I took the heat for it, and I’m ok with it. Not my first BBQ.

As far as me going to their forum, I see no problem with throwing the dog poop they left in our yard and throwing it back in their yard.

Remember the ones whi stated; “you can’t stop me (us)”? Hold my beer.

I don’t think that was hazmat’s intensions.

Sorry for keeping the thread alive.

Lets work on getting back on track working on numbers.

Kids...don't do drugs

[Spikes]

I realize I should let this message scroll down.

But I don’t get it, SORTA. Its one thing to quit a game but return to the forums because you still have friends here. But, the way some are here to passive aggressively berate the game or me and promote your own in every subject it can be wedged in, it reminds me, if I break up with a GF, I don’t go stand in her yard berating her. People who do are mentally goofed. This mentality is like the “friend” in your home who calls ya buddy buddy buddy while they stand next to your wife, arm around her shoulder, grabbing her breast. These are not friends they are dishonest brokers. Would you not shove them out?

After the 128 page of their dog pooping in our yard was removed, suddenly they don’t have much to contribute. You know their intensions. Its not rocket science.

These are things 15 yr olds do. You expect it. When its 60-70 yr olds men it makes one think about sanity, which they try very hard to project themselves onto me to hide it. Obviously thinking everyone else has real low IQ. We saw that in this thread. The guy who openly points out BS, his credibility must be attacked. Its nothing new nor creative in human nature.

The guy trying to help is negative, and skimming players is a positive you should accept.  It’s for your own good, because we “care”. <blank stare> This is kid stuff, Juvenal. Not wisemen.

“”We hold the game close to our heat” - BS, your game you’re skimming for is close to your heart.

We had this problem with WB players coming to AW forums doing the same exact thing. I’ve seen it before, I know what it looks like. Same script.

If some don’t like what it took to get it gone, then I apologize for what I perceived as fighting the good fight. I took the heat for it, and I’m ok with it. Not my first BBQ.

As far as me going to their forum, I see no problem with throwing the dog poop they left in our yard and throwing it back in their yard.

Remember the ones whi stated; “you can’t stop me (us)”? Hold my beer.

I don’t think that was hazmat’s intensions.

Sorry for keeping the thread alive.

Lets work on getting back on track working on numbers.

I think you are extremely paranoid about something that is largely irrelevant. If HT was truly concerned about other-game discussions, I would imagine there would be an end put to it.