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Offline AKIron

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Re: This morning
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2025, 01:43:54 PM »
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Re: This morning
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2025, 04:12:32 PM »
Because hiring someone based upon merit is such a radical idea.

Only problem might be is finding that rare person who can be totally objective in determining merit. I've never met one.

Ever consider that the best fighter pilot in the military may not have known how to fly when he/she joined up? Only an example.
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2025, 04:23:45 PM »
Only problem might be is finding that rare person who can be totally objective in determining merit. I've never met one.

Ever consider that the best fighter pilot in the military may not have known how to fly when he/she joined up? Only an example.

So why isn't the NBA hiring more white dudes?  See how flawed your way of thinking is?  It's also very obvious that you are not in business for yourself or at the hiring level for someone else.  I am, and I don't know one owner or manager who wouldn't hire a good candidate regardless of their race or ethnicity.  Enough with the boogieman crap. 
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Re: This morning
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2025, 04:37:01 PM »
So why isn't the NBA hiring more white dudes?  See how flawed your way of thinking is?  It's also very obvious that you are not in business for yourself or at the hiring level for someone else.  I am, and I don't know one owner or manager who wouldn't hire a good candidate regardless of their race or ethnicity.  Enough with the boogieman crap.

"boogieman crap" I have literally no idea wtf you are talking about.

But yes; I have experience in hiring...  before I retired I used to hire pilot candidates for the airline I worked for. Most worked out well... not all.
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Re: This morning
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2025, 04:50:43 PM »
"boogieman crap" I have literally no idea wtf you are talking about. 

But yes; I have experience in hiring...  before I retired I used to hire pilot candidates for the airline I worked for. Most worked out well... not all.

Boogieman - where is this racism or prejudice that causes people like yourself to justify racism and prejudice? 
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2025, 05:20:45 PM »
Hiring based on race, gender, or religion is illegal. Affirmative Action has been determined unconstitutional. How can anyone get away with hiring based on any aspect but merit?
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2025, 05:23:35 PM »
Boogieman - where is this racism or prejudice that causes people like yourself to justify racism and prejudice?

Still confused.. I have no idea where I tried to justify racism and prejudice.... and I apologize if it seemed that I did. There is no justification for racism and prejudice... ever.
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2025, 05:26:58 PM »
Still confused.. I have no idea where I tried to justify racism and prejudice.... and I apologize if it seemed that I did. There is no justification for racism and prejudice... ever.

But, you do not support hiring on merit alone?   
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2025, 05:29:59 PM »
Hiring based on race, gender, or religion is illegal. Affirmative Action has been determined unconstitutional. How can anyone get away with hiring based on any aspect but merit?

merit...the quality of being particularly good or worthy, especially so as to deserve praise or reward.

qualified....officially recognized as being trained to perform a particular job; certified.

I llike that latter. Merit is too subjective for me.
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2025, 05:42:20 PM »
merit...the quality of being particularly good or worthy, especially so as to deserve praise or reward.

qualified....officially recognized as being trained to perform a particular job; certified.

I llike that latter. Merit is too subjective for me.

A determination of merit is subjective as is "certified". A hirer should continue in that role based on demonstrated success in achieving the established goal.
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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2025, 05:47:28 PM »
One example of failure to achieve what certainly should be a company goal is frequent failures in company airplane production. Once lost, public trust is almost impossible to regain.
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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2025, 06:13:38 PM »
One example of failure to achieve what certainly should be a company goal is frequent failures in company airplane production. Once lost, public trust is almost impossible to regain.
 

If you are discussing the Boeing fiasco, I have serious doubts that they can (or even have a clue how to) recover.
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Re: This morning
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2025, 06:42:34 AM »




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Re: This morning
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2025, 08:42:57 AM »
Fire insurance in LA will become unaffordable or nonexistent. US taxpayers are not on the hook for this debacle regardless of what has been said.
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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2025, 12:17:51 PM »
Fire insurance in LA will become unaffordable or nonexistent. US taxpayers are not on the hook for this debacle regardless of what has been said.
It’s the same with hurricanes in Florida. Been slammed by 2 storms in 2 years. Took Milton full landfall, damn eye went right over the house, and we took the north eye wall of Ian in 2022. The damages were not nearly enough to file a claim but my premiums increased after Ian and I’m almost certain they will rise again come April.
My take is, if the Government requires a product “insurance”, which one needs if they have a mortgage, then they also need to provide a solution as well.


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