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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2025, 05:06:39 PM »

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2025, 05:11:19 PM »
You wanna die from... nothing?

Seriously though when I was young I figured every day over age 70 was borrowed. Now that I am 70 I know every day is borrowed regardless of age.

I care less about when I die than about how sickly and decrepit I am when I die.  Health-span is more important to me than life-span.

Hopefully I will remain mobile, vibrant, feeling good right up to the point I just die in my sleep.   :D
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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2025, 05:47:19 PM »
You wanna die from... nothing?

Seriously though when I was young I figured every day over age 70 was borrowed. Now that I am 70 I know every day is borrowed regardless of age.

Everyday is a blessing..

What one does with it is what makes the difference

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2025, 05:48:09 PM »
I care less about when I die than about how sickly and decrepit I am when I die.  Health-span is more important to me than life-span.

Hopefully I will remain mobile, vibrant, feeling good right up to the point I just die in my sleep.   :D

Not me man. I want to go down fighting. Wolverines!
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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2025, 05:55:11 PM »
How tall are you guys? Over 6'6"?

You realize 5' 9" 170lbs is overweight right?

https://www.health.harvard.edu/bmi-calculator

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The BMI measurement also tells us Derrick Henry, running back for Baltimore at 6'2" 247lb is obese. The guy is an absolute specimen so take BMI with a mountain of Morton's.
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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2025, 06:00:39 PM »
I care less about when I die than about how sickly and decrepit I am when I die.  Health-span is more important to me than life-span.

Hopefully I will remain mobile, vibrant, feeling good right up to the point I just die in my sleep.   :D

Not sure where Hunter S. Thompson falls on this:

“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2025, 06:08:01 PM »
Not sure where Hunter S. Thompson falls on this:

“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”

Hunter S. Thompson

That would be the ideal, if you knew how long your were going to live.

Sadly, a lot of people mis-time that and end up thoroughly used up, sickly,  and worn out and still have 10 years to limp along in diapers miserable and in pain on a walker the last decade of their life.

Timing is everything. ;)


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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2025, 06:15:37 PM »
That would be the ideal, if you knew how long your were going to live.

Sadly, a lot of people mis-time that and end up thoroughly used up, sickly,  and worn out and still have 10 years to limp along in diapers miserable and in pain on a walker the last decade of their life.

Timing is everything. ;)

Yup, he knew exactly how long he was gonna live right down to the second. So there is that but I agree with you.
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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2025, 06:46:28 PM »
I prefer the old wisdom of gangster rap.

"Lifes a bish and then ya die, that's why you play Aces High cuz you never know when you gonna go".  :devil

No matter how many guns you have, how much you prep for total disaster, how well you know health, ect. You could die of a stroke that night. Happened to a truther and hard core prepper acquaintance I knew.. still in shock over that one. 
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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2025, 10:20:28 PM »
Can we please stay on track with this thread! It has been very inspirational and has a lot of information many people can learn by.

Please follow rule #1...... dont be a dick.

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« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2025, 10:53:56 PM »
Can we please stay on track with this thread! It has been very inspirational and has a lot of information many people can learn by.

Please follow rule #1...... dont be a dick.

You first.

And by that I mean post something relevant instead of criticizing others.
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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2025, 03:23:16 AM »
Interesting. I hadn't realized body hair goes away with diabetes. A friend who was diagnosed a few years back first started noticing tingling, burning and sharp pains in her extremities (neuropathy) which is one of the classic signs. She's since been able to reduce that sharply by reducing carbs but I'd like to know what other symptoms have since diminished or disappeared since she started fighting back.

Great work, Getback. Sounds like you are living up to your nickname, gettin' back!

Some people don't experience any noticeable symptoms. I hurt so bad I thought I had leukemia. My joints hurt, my muscles hurt, and I had neuropathy. When I went to the doctor, I was wandering how many months I had to live. I also was retaining a bunch of water. My ankles were swollen. When you lose water weight that's a sign that inflammation is subsiding. All of these ailments are gone.

One thing that I've noticed is that almost every diabetes patient suffers from depression. Sugar affects the brain. Once cured you will often here them boast of their mental clarity.

"Gettin' Back" hehe

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« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2025, 04:07:23 AM »
First, I'm impressed with the knowledge that many of you have on nutrition. It's refreshing!

I've dieted in the past losing 85 lbs. and another time losing 65 lbs. I gained it all back and then some. When my doctor suggested I cut carbs and sugar a light went off. Could that be the key?! Turns out it was. I actually had given up on dieting.

I now say if you're starving yourself, you have already failed. I eat until sated. I do fast at times but, that's after a large carnivore meal. I may not be hungry for up to 2 days. If you want to beat diabetes you have to fast to get that fat out of your liver.

For the first time in my adult life, I have no love handles. I'm still considered obese by only 8 pounds. I was morbidly obese with a BMI of 49. I didn't like either of those words.

I quit eating by the clock. Generally, I have two meals a day (2mad) and often just one (OMAD). When you eat a bunch of carbs you will probably be hungry every couple of hours. They are not satisfying. The real reason anyone should go Keto or Carnivore is for health. Once carbs are reduced you will lose weight. Best of all its sustainable. I realized that just two weeks in.

I'm 5'11" and weigh 222. My BMI is 31.1. When it goes below 30, I'll no longer be obese. Caution on BMI, that's only a general index. It's not completely accurate.


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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2025, 06:14:47 AM »
Interesting reading. And glad you've got your health issues tackled by "just" changing your eating habits.

A couple of statements made me think, though: Are carbs really that dangerous? Same with fibres. The Asian foods often contain rice or noodles and lots of vegetables, i.e. carbs and fibres and not much meat. Yet the Chinese, Korean, Indian etc. people have traditionally been very slim. Obesity has become somewhat of a problem there only after the Western fast food has gained popularity.

Another thing is that permanently reducing the daily amount of calories in any way will result weight loss especially if the starting point is high.

Further, any change in your normal diet will cause constipation. At least it does that for me.

For the record I'm 6" tall and weigh about 180 lbs which means my BMI is about 25, have been that way for the last few decades. My normal diet is yoghurt and muesli plus two slices of wholegrain rye bread for breakfast - with juice and coffee. Normally no lunch. For dinner there's usually animal protein with boiled potatoes and vegetables. And for evening snack I often take a beer or two, or some Scotch, or occasionally wine.

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Re: Everything Starts With Nutrition
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2025, 06:47:42 AM »
I think that is great Bizman! It's definitely not one diet fits all. For some carbs are like arsenic, it takes more for some people.

Indians (as in India) have the highest rate of Diabetes. Japan prior to WWII were expressly forbidden to eat meat. They went into war weighing 135 lbs. Vietnamese actually lost height over the years from eating mainly rice.

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