Off Map

[Busher]

Not a new request, but there are players who daily abuse off map routings to enemy strats. These missions often last 2-3 hours making it almost impossible for defending fighters to locate the attacker.

This is a second request that, in the interest of fair combat, off map flying should be prevented. Solved possibly by 1: all ordinance jettisoned after 2 minutes off map or 2: disconnect from the game or 3: the location of the off map attacker is clearly displayed while off map.

[icepac]

#3 is cool

[eddiek]

Long while back, I proposed something similar to #1...my suggestion was all ords, including MG ammo, jetttisoned or deleted, and fuel burn multiplier amp up to 10 or 15X.  Losing all your ords and having no chance of getting back would hopefully dampen the enthusiasm for flying off map.

[Kini]

How about just blowing up the offending aircraft. 

[DmonSlyr]

Yeah, would be cool if you flew out of bounds for longer than 20 seconds that an AIM 120 or lightening strike came out of no where and destroyed your plane 

[Dadtallica]

I don’t understand why anyone cares about this.

[icepac]

I sometimes land a fighter on the beach of the “border” and go AFK with the volume cranked.   

The excitement and scramble when I hear one flying over is fun.

[Busher]

I don’t understand why anyone cares about this.

Probably because 1 formation of bombers can significantly reduce factory strats for 3 hours in just a matter of minutes - 18 goons or m3s needed to repair the damage.

If a player is going to be a strat raider, he or she should face some jeopardy on the way to the enemy's essential factories.

Whether anyone does anything about this is doubtful; the complaint has been discussed for a long time.

[Dadtallica]

Probably because 1 formation of bombers can significantly reduce factory strats for 3 hours in just a matter of minutes - 18 goons or m3s needed to repair the damage.

If a player is going to be a strat raider, he or she should face some jeopardy on the way to the enemy's essential factories.

Whether anyone does anything about this is doubtful; the complaint has been discussed for a long time.

All true, but if they’re off map chances are, they’re out there for a lot longer than just a couple of minutes and plenty of people could go get them. If real life has any measure like a lot of arguments seem to be bogged down in, the world would extend beyond the grids.

I take your points. I think the stress system should be updated to both be more dynamic like in the past and less easy to manipulate.

[Devil 505]

That behavior is avoiding combat in a game specifically made to promote combat. Hiding off the map should be punished severely.

It's genuinely insulting to the players that seek combat.

My ideal solution would set an offending player to "killshooter on" mode against enemies. Except the host message says. "Don't fly off the map." with every hit. And yes, bomb damage will have the same result. Let them waste hours of their lives only to get blown up by their own bombs.

[icepac]

If a player is going to be a strat raider, he or she should face some jeopardy on the way to the enemy's strategic factories.

 

You mean having an enemy who reads a dar bar and can actually plan a successful intercept? 

I rarely see the the frustrated complainers involved in an intercept of a strat runner or even lifting a finger to resupply after allowing the six plus enemy B29s who hovered over and bombed the strats down to slowly fly 12 sectors home and land unmolested.

[Gooss]

All true, but if they’re off map chances are, they’re out there for a lot longer than just a couple of minutes and plenty of people could go get them.

When the strat attackers are off map and NOE, there's no indicator.  No dar bar, no arrows. 

[icepac]

I watch the darbars constantly.     If I see one near the border that flashes on but quickly goes away, I make sure to put myself where they will fly past.

[Dadtallica]

When the strat attackers are off map and NOE, there's no indicator.  No dar bar, no arrows.

Nothing is perfect