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Offline Buzzbait

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« on: January 20, 2002, 04:14:54 AM »
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ok, I still host the CT, so if you are having troubles there, I can do something about it, but I need information.

Please post me a traceroute to rt2.applink.net or to rt1.applink.net in the Internet forums if you are having troubles with the CT, as I cannot find a thing that would cause any problems on this side of the fence.


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Offline Kronos

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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2002, 04:47:11 AM »
how to do it? or do u just want us to ping the site?

Offline Hamish

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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2002, 05:55:37 AM »
use a program, i.e. ping plotter to do a traceroute, save the info, and then e-mail it to skuzzy, it's very easy to use.


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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2002, 11:45:16 AM »
didn't realize you were back from your cruise,  welcome back!

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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2002, 12:37:38 PM »
Here's a couple typical traces to rt1 and rt2...

RT1...

Host Name                                               IP Address            Hop    Ping Time   Ping Avg   % Loss   Pkts r/s       Ping best/worst
* Unknown Host *                                        xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx         1      40ms        39ms       0%       90 / 90        10ms / 230ms
rc2so-ge11-0.cg.shawcable.net                           24.64.0.8             2      20ms        23ms       0%       90 / 90        0ms / 131ms
rc2ch-atm8-0-2.il.shawcable.net                         204.209.214.150       3      40ms        54ms       0%       90 / 90        40ms / 150ms
ge-3-16.a01.chcgil01.us.ra.verio.net                    129.250.223.53        4      50ms        66ms       0%       90 / 90        40ms / 241ms
ge-1-0-0.r02.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net                   129.250.27.29         5      40ms        57ms       0%       90 / 90        40ms / 141ms
p16-5-0-0.r01.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net                  129.250.2.220         6      100ms       60ms       0%       90 / 90        30ms / 130ms
p16-2-0-0.r01.chcgil06.us.bb.verio.net                  129.250.5.70          7      80ms        58ms       0%       90 / 90        30ms / 130ms
p16-3-0-0.r01.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net                  129.250.5.85          8      71ms        82ms       0%       90 / 90        60ms / 170ms
ge-1-0-0.a10.dllstx01.us.ra.verio.net                   129.250.28.164        9      120ms       86ms       0%       90 / 90        60ms / 171ms
fa-8-0-0.a09.dllstx01.us.ra.verio.net                   129.250.28.170        10     60ms        96ms       0%       90 / 90        60ms / 340ms
rt1.applink.net                                         206.50.88.40          11     120ms       103ms      0%       90 / 90        70ms / 191ms


...and RT2

Host Name                                               IP Address            Hop    Ping Time   Ping Avg   % Loss   Pkts r/s       Ping best/worst
* Unknown Host *                                        xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx          1      40ms        33ms       0%       71 / 71        10ms / 110ms
rc2so-ge11-0.cg.shawcable.net                           24.64.0.8             2      20ms        23ms       1%       70 / 71        0ms / 120ms
VLN.Serialx-x-x.GWx.POPx.ALTER.NET                      157.130.157.41        3      20ms        22ms       0%       71 / 71        10ms / 100ms
116.at-6-0-0.XR2.CAL1.ALTER.NET                         152.63.137.158        4      20ms        20ms       0%       71 / 71        0ms / 90ms
192.at-1-0-0.TL2.CAL1.ALTER.NET                         152.63.136.82         5      20ms        19ms       0%       71 / 71        0ms / 80ms
0.so-4-0-0.TL2.DFW9.ALTER.NET                           152.63.0.182          6      80ms        77ms       0%       71 / 71        60ms / 150ms
0.so-7-0-0.XL2.DFW9.ALTER.NET                           152.63.2.182          7      70ms        78ms       0%       71 / 71        60ms / 170ms
0.so-7-0-0.XR2.DFW9.ALTER.NET                           152.63.102.2          8      70ms        80ms       0%       70 / 70        60ms / 140ms
184.ATM7-0.GW5.DFW9.ALTER.NET                           152.63.100.45         9      70ms        83ms       0%       70 / 70        60ms / 130ms
savvis-dfw-gw.customer.ALTER.NET                        157.130.155.234       10     71ms        87ms       1%       69 / 70        60ms / 150ms
savvis-internet.cntx04.usdlls2-bsn.savvis.net           64.241.96.94          11     110ms       91ms       0%       70 / 70        60ms / 220ms
* Unknown Host *                                        0.0.0.0               12     0ms


Only real difference between the two is RT2 doesn't reply to ICMP (what's the main peer point clients come in over anyway, RT1 or 2?). I have no idea what the setup is or how the code forces these pesky switches over to TCP. One would hope that is not an issue although anything is possibile. Nevertheless, both paths are fairly decent but I think its a given that the route across the Net isn't the cause. Something is triggering the push over to TCP at the point of hitting the arena server itself or coming into the local network. The problems with warps is of course that TCP is a poor gaming protocol and will cause problems for anyone coming in over anything less than a stellar connection. Stop that forced switch and make sure UDP remains the protocol being used, and you fix your problems.

Since this all started when the Stalingrad terrain was put in place, what happens when you switched the terrain back to the previous terrain? Does the problem still exist? If you haven't tried this I would suggest you do. I have no idea how or why the terrain would force you to TCP, but clearly that switch is triggered in the game code somewhere, so who knows by what. How or why a map would do it, I dunno. It certainly should be looked at if it hasn't already though, for nothing else just to eliminate a piece of the puzzle.

Also what are the packet sniffs saying? Someone should be doing these with the arena entry session. You should at least see from those what event is triggering the switch to TCP. That might give some insight.

Is the server side setup identical to the last session? Or were changes made there recently?

Vortex
« Last Edit: January 20, 2002, 02:55:05 PM by Vortex »
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2002, 02:11:44 PM »
No probs on RT1, but 100% packet loss on the last entry for RT2.

NeoTrace Trace  Version 3.25  Results
Target: rt2.applink.net
Date: 1/20/2002 (Sunday), 9:24:13 PM
Nodes: 19


Node Data
Node Net Reg IP Address      Location            Node Name
   1   -   - ***.***.***.***  BRUXELLES (BRUSSE   saintaw
   2   1   - 212.68.228.1    Unknown            
   3   2   1 212.68.201.2    Unknown             212.68.201.2.brutele.be
   4   2   - 212.68.203.194  Unknown            
   5   3   2 193.251.250.221 Unknown             s2-0-0.bruar1.brussels.opentransit.net
   6   3   2 193.251.128.137 Unknown             p1-3.brubb1.brussels.opentransit.net
   7   3   2 193.251.151.210 Unknown             p0-0.brubb2.brussels.opentransit.net
   8   3   2 193.251.154.162 AMSTERDAM           p3-0.amsbb2.amsterdam.opentransit.net
   9   3   2 193.251.240.157 Unknown             p10-5.nykbb3.new-york.opentransit.net
  10   3   2 193.251.241.237 Unknown             p10-0.nykcr2.new-york.opentransit.net
  11   3   2 193.251.241.234 Unknown             p6-0.nykbb1.new-york.opentransit.net
  12   -   3 144.232.235.189 New York            sl-gw18-nyc-7-3.sprintlink.net
  13   -   3 144.232.13.162  New York            sl-bb21-nyc-12-1.sprintlink.net
  14   -   3 144.232.18.69   Atlanta             sl-bb21-atl-11-1.sprintlink.net
  15   4   3 144.232.18.214  Fort Worth          sl-bb20-fw-10-1.sprintlink.net
  16   4   3 144.232.11.126  Fort Worth          sl-gw20-fw-8-0.sprintlink.net
  17   -   3 144.232.194.14  Unknown             sl-savvis-2-0-0.sprintlink.net
  18   5   4 64.241.96.94    Unknown             savvis-internet.cntx04.usdlls2-bsn.savvis.net
  19   6   5 216.91.192.44   Irving              rt2.applink.net


Packet Data
Node High Low  Avg  Tot  Lost
   1    0    0    0    1    0
   2   22   22   22    1    0
   3   20   20   20    1    0
   4   20   20   20    1    0
   5   25   25   25    1    0
   6   22   22   22    1    0
   7   27   27   27    1    0
   8   24   24   24    1    0
   9  118  118  118    1    0
  10  100  100  100    1    0
  11   98   98   98    1    0
  12  365  365  365    1    0
  13  372  372  372    1    0
  14  394  394  394    1    0
  15  167  167  167    1    0
  16  136  136  136    1    0
  17  182  182  182    1    0
  18  182  182  182    1    0
  19 ---- ---- ----    2    2






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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2002, 02:36:58 PM »
Target Name: rt1.applink.net
         IP: 206.50.88.40
  Date/Time: 1/20/02 3:38:45 PM

 1   24 ms   25 ms   24 ms   23 ms   23 ms   24 ms   24 ms   24 ms   25 ms   24 ms  xxxx-xx-xxx-x.jax.bellsouth.net [xx.xx.xxx.x]
 2   25 ms   26 ms   24 ms   25 ms   24 ms   24 ms   25 ms   25 ms   24 ms   25 ms  xxxx-xx-xxx-x.jax.bellsouth.net [xx.xx.xxx.x]
 3   25 ms   25 ms   24 ms   25 ms   24 ms   24 ms   25 ms   24 ms   24 ms   25 ms  [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
 4   25 ms   25 ms   25 ms   25 ms   24 ms   24 ms   25 ms   24 ms   26 ms   25 ms  500.POS4-0.GW5.JAX1.ALTER.NET [63.122.229.249]
 5   33 ms   33 ms   32 ms   33 ms   32 ms   32 ms   32 ms   32 ms   34 ms   33 ms  126.at-1-1-0.XR1.ATL1.ALTER.NET [152.63.84.226]
 6   33 ms   33 ms   33 ms   32 ms   32 ms   33 ms   32 ms   32 ms   33 ms   33 ms  0.so-1-0-0.XL1.ATL1.ALTER.NET [152.63.86.85]
 7   33 ms   33 ms   32 ms   32 ms   33 ms   32 ms   33 ms   32 ms   33 ms   32 ms  0.so-1-0-0.TL1.ATL5.ALTER.NET [152.63.85.217]
 8   67 ms   69 ms   67 ms   68 ms   67 ms   69 ms   69 ms   68 ms   69 ms   67 ms  0.so-0-0-0.TL1.CHI2.ALTER.NET [152.63.13.17]
 9   68 ms   72 ms   67 ms   67 ms   67 ms   68 ms   69 ms   68 ms   69 ms   68 ms  0.so-2-0-0.XL1.CHI2.ALTER.NET [152.63.67.126]
10   70 ms   71 ms   70 ms   70 ms   70 ms   70 ms   70 ms   70 ms   69 ms   70 ms  POS6-0.BR1.CHI2.ALTER.NET [152.63.64.113]
11   68 ms   68 ms   67 ms   68 ms   67 ms   68 ms   68 ms   68 ms   67 ms   68 ms  a3-0.uunet.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net [204.255.169.14]
12   71 ms   71 ms   71 ms   72 ms   70 ms   71 ms   70 ms   71 ms   70 ms   70 ms  p16-2-0-0.r01.chcgil06.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.70]
13   75 ms   74 ms   73 ms   74 ms   73 ms   73 ms   74 ms   74 ms   75 ms   74 ms  p16-3-0-0.r01.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.85]
14   75 ms   75 ms   73 ms   74 ms   75 ms   73 ms   74 ms   74 ms   75 ms   73 ms  ge-1-0-0.a10.dllstx01.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.28.164]
15   75 ms   75 ms   74 ms   74 ms   74 ms   75 ms   74 ms   74 ms   76 ms   74 ms  fa-5-1-0.a09.dllstx01.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.31.61]
16   81 ms   88 ms   83 ms   80 ms   80 ms   83 ms   80 ms   81 ms   80 ms   82 ms  rt1.applink.net [206.50.88.40]

Target Name: rt2.applink.net
         IP: 216.91.192.44
  Date/Time: 1/20/02 3:40:42 PM

 1   25 ms   24 ms  xxxx-xx-xxx-x.jax.bellsouth.net [xx.xx.xxx.x]
 2   26 ms   24 ms  xxxx-xx-xxx-x.jax.bellsouth.net [xx.xx.xxx.x]
 3   24 ms   24 ms  [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
 4   26 ms   24 ms  500.POS4-0.GW5.JAX1.ALTER.NET [63.122.229.249]
 5   34 ms   31 ms  126.at-1-1-0.XR1.ATL1.ALTER.NET [152.63.84.226]
 6   32 ms   32 ms  0.so-1-0-0.XL1.ATL1.ALTER.NET [152.63.86.85]
 7   31 ms   31 ms  0.so-1-0-0.TL1.ATL5.ALTER.NET [152.63.85.217]
 8   54 ms   53 ms  0.so-4-0-0.TL1.DFW9.ALTER.NET [152.63.0.181]
 9   54 ms   55 ms  0.so-7-0-0.XL1.DFW9.ALTER.NET [152.63.0.194]
10   56 ms   54 ms  0.so-7-0-0.XR1.DFW9.ALTER.NET [152.63.101.250]
11   55 ms   54 ms  185.ATM7-0.GW5.DFW9.ALTER.NET [152.63.100.49]
12   58 ms   55 ms  savvis-dfw-gw.customer.ALTER.NET [157.130.155.234]
13   55 ms   55 ms  savvis-internet.cntx04.usdlls2-bsn.savvis.net [64.241.96.94]
14   *       *       [-]
15   *       *       [-]
16   *       *       [-]
17   *       *       [-]
18   *       *       [-]
19   *       *       [-]
20   *       *       [-]
21   *       *       [-]
22   *       *       [-]
23   *       *       [-]
24   *       *       [-]
25   *       *       [-]
26   *       *       [-]
27   *       *       [-]


rt2 unreachable even on rt1 and good pings on my end its so warpy in there its fer me unplayable. Always switches to tcp.

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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2002, 02:42:45 PM »
Skuzzy!

Trace to rt1:

 1    19 ms    20 ms    21 ms  adsl-40961.turboline.skynet.be [217.136.32.1]

  2    29 ms    29 ms    29 ms  at-0-1-0-45.adsl2.gam.brussels.skynet.be [194.78.255.237]

  3    29 ms    29 ms    29 ms  ge-1-1-0.intl1.gam.brussels.skynet.be [195.238.2.141]

  4    31 ms    34 ms    32 ms  gige5-0-115.ipcolo2.Brussels1.Level3.net [212.3.234.21]

  5    26 ms    29 ms    30 ms  unknown.Level3.net [212.3.239.165]

  6    29 ms    29 ms    29 ms  so-1-0-0.mp1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.128.1]

  7    29 ms    29 ms    29 ms  gigabitethernet1-0.core2.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.14]

  8    29 ms    29 ms    28 ms  pos2-0.metro2-londencyh00.London1.Level3.net [212.113.0.117]

  9    35 ms    34 ms    34 ms  ge-1.linx.londen02.uk.bb.verio.net [195.66.224.139]

 10    99 ms    99 ms    99 ms  p4-1-0-0.r80.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.4.181]

 11    99 ms   104 ms   108 ms  p4-4-0-0.r04.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.11]

 12    99 ms   104 ms    99 ms  p16-4-0-0.r01.nwrknj01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.12]

 13   104 ms    99 ms    99 ms  p4-2-1-0.r01.nycmny06.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.4.210]

 14    99 ms   101 ms   104 ms  p4-7-0-0.r00.nycmny06.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.4.192]

 15   108 ms   106 ms   104 ms  p4-4-0-0.r01.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.3.182]

 16   104 ms   104 ms   105 ms  p16-7-0-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.3.158]

 17   140 ms   141 ms   163 ms  p16-2-0-0.r02.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.34]

 18   135 ms   139 ms   139 ms  ge-0-0-0.a10.dllstx01.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.31.58]

 19   139 ms   139 ms   139 ms  fa-8-0-0.a09.dllstx01.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.28.170]

 20   149 ms   149 ms   149 ms  rt1.applink.net [206.50.88.40]

Trace to rt2:

  1    22 ms    20 ms    19 ms  adsl-40961.turboline.skynet.be [217.136.32.1]

  2    29 ms    24 ms    24 ms  at-0-0-0-101.adsl2.gam.brussels.skynet.be [194.78.255.181]

  3    29 ms    25 ms    24 ms  ge-1-1-0.intl1.gam.brussels.skynet.be [195.238.2.141]

  4    24 ms    24 ms    29 ms  gige5-0-115.ipcolo2.Brussels1.Level3.net [212.3.234.21]

  5    25 ms    24 ms    24 ms  unknown.Level3.net [212.3.239.165]

  6    29 ms    29 ms    29 ms  so-1-0-0.mp1.London2.Level3.net [212.187.128.49]

  7   100 ms    99 ms    99 ms  so-1-0-0.mp2.Weehawken1.Level3.net [212.187.128.138]

  8   129 ms   129 ms   129 ms  so-2-0-0.mp1.Chicago1.Level3.net [64.159.0.233]

  9   130 ms   129 ms   129 ms  pos8-0.core1.Chicago1.Level3.net [209.247.10.162]

 10   152 ms   132 ms   129 ms  unknown.Level3.net [209.0.225.2]

 11   159 ms   159 ms   154 ms  at-1-2-0902.usdlls2-j20c.savvis.net [64.242.22.193]

 12   156 ms   154 ms   154 ms  savvis-internet.cntx04.usdlls2-bsn.savvis.net [64.241.96.94]

 13   TIMEOUT from 13th hop (13th....what a coincidence ;) )


Last time I had a clean connection: last thursday.
Since then, I'm switched to TCP every time. And I tried a lot to get a clean connection...without any success. Game is still playable, but it reminds me 8-players rooms from MS CFS...lots of micro & mini-warps.

Thanks for you efforts,
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2002, 03:41:18 PM »
Buzzbait = Skuzzy, am I the only one who didn't know this.  


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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2002, 04:25:27 PM »
WOT??? He is Him himself ?
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2002, 07:17:33 PM »
S!

No, I'm not Skuzzy.

I just enlisted his services after I saw a post of his.

Just trying to make the CT work... :confused:

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Please read this if you are having connect problems to CT
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2002, 06:10:59 PM »
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