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Offline Thrawn

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Why no Ju87
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2002, 10:17:39 AM »
MA = Main Arena.

The Ju-87 will be here eventually.  Hard to call a game a WW2 flight sim without it.
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Offline MadBirdCZ

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Why no Ju87
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2002, 12:05:58 PM »
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Current day don't last more than 24 hour (sadly ;))


Hmm If its not enough then they can work in the night as well :D
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Offline Sikboy

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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2002, 01:04:13 PM »
Does anyone know how many RPG the Ju-87g Carry for the 37mm pods?

I think that if they figure out why 50 cals are punching out tanks, and stop this (assuming it's an innacuracy, and not by design) that planes like the Hurricane IID, Yak-9T and potentially the Stuka Gustav might find a home in the tank-busting Role. But this can't happen if it's easy to pop tanks with .50s and 20mm guns.

Anyhow, that's how I see the Stuka contributing to the MA

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Why no Ju87
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2002, 01:52:42 PM »
Something like 6 per cannon.
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Offline fdiron

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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2002, 01:57:11 PM »
Its hard to kill a tank with the Yak9Ts 37mm.  Sometimes I can get a good engine hit on a panzer, but most the time the rounds dont do any damage.
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Why no Ju87
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2002, 01:58:51 PM »
yep...
"The Ju 87G was the 'tank-buster' version of the Stuka. It abandoned the dive attack in favour of an armament of two 37mm Rheinmetall-Borsig BK 3,7 anti-tank cannon. These weapons fired special armour-piercing ammunition, with tungsten cores, at a muzzle velocity of 850m/sec. They were installed in gun pods fitted outboard of the landing gear legs, fed by six-round clips. The Ju 87G could still drop bombs, but not in a dive."
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2002, 02:24:01 PM »
Yikes! 6 rounds per gun x2 guns= not a lot of tank killing. I'm not sure how usefull that would be in that case :( Perhaps it could be usefull if 1-2 hits could disable a Panzer.  I guess I have a new research Project. If these Aircraft were successful in the real life role of tank-busting, I need to find out what my problem is using them in game. I can't kill a PZ in a Hurri2D, but instead of calling for HiTech's head on a stake, I think I'll review my tactics. It would be nice though IMHO, if only the bazooka cannons could punch holes in Panzers.

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Why no Ju87
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2002, 03:38:07 PM »
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Originally posted by MadBirdCZ

But do you know where did this '2 weeks' period came from? It was the time needed by HiTech and the rest of the great HTC ppl to write the first ever version of AH (included are coding time, testing, recovery from hangover followed by the release of first ever AH Beta)





'2 Weeks' was a phrase long in existance before AH was made.



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This is the Stuka that should be in Aces High
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2002, 03:40:56 PM »
This is the Stuka model we should get, the Ju87 G-1 with 2 37mm Flak guns.








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Offline Professor Fate

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Just say no to dive sirens!
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2002, 04:26:19 PM »
Noway no how on the dive sirens if they implement them it gonna mean early war craft. Personally I'd like to see the Ju87G with 37mm guns with option for bombs too sure they didn't have the sirens but hey take your pick you want bark? or do you want bite?
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Offline Thrawn

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Why no Ju87
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2002, 04:32:57 PM »
Honestly?  Bark.  If I'm flying a stuka, it isn't because it's good, it's because it's a stuka.
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Why no Ju87
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2002, 04:34:27 PM »
I would rather take Ju-88 P-2 (2*37mm), -3(2*37mm with better armour) or -4(1*50mm) for tank busting. Ju-88 is already in AH so guess it wouldnt take too much work to model one of these.

btw Ju-87 G would be rather useless in MA. If HTC builds it it would propably see quite much use in first few days and after that people would again take Typhoon, Yak-9T or F4u-1C for tank-hunt. Modelling it would be waste of time (IMO) when there are still planes which could see lots of more users in MA.
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Offline Sikboy

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« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2002, 04:57:37 PM »
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btw Ju-87 G would be rather useless in MA. If HTC builds it it would propably see quite much use in first few days and after that people would again take Typhoon, Yak-9T or F4u-1C for tank-hunt. Modelling it would be waste of time (IMO) when there are still planes which could see lots of more users in MA.


This is so True. The only hope would be a re-examination of the Air-Ground dynamic in the game. There are a few topics addressing this in the "Aircraft and Vehicles" forum. If something is implemented that would keep the Hispanos and .50s from lazerbeaming Panzers into oblivion, the utility of a Ju-87g/Hurri2D, IL-2, Yak-9T will increase greatly (I think anyhow).

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Offline MrLars

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Why no Ju87
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Offline Viper17

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Why no Ju87
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2002, 06:49:32 PM »
I thint that the new verson will be out befor Invasion Sicily. Loo the before the scenarios like big week the new verson came out. Look for it in march :cool:
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