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Offline Udie at Work

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« on: March 07, 2002, 09:27:42 AM »
Oh my God  I'm shaking as I type this.  About an hour ago I left to go get breakfast taco's for the office.  OTW I stopped to get gas.  I got back in my car to go get the taco's looked down to put my car in gear and hear SMASH!  I then look up to see a car about 100 ft in front of me 20 ft. in the air, spinning and goign about 50 mph to my left.  The car hit and spin/skidded on it's roof for about 100-150 ft.  While a green jeep cherokee was stopped just past the intersection all smashed up in the front. I ran back into the store to tell them to call an ambulance, which they were on the phone doing. The girl at the store and I then took off to the car that I had just seen flying.

 I don't think I will forget the run over to that car.  I was terrified at what I was about to see inside the car.  I got there and looked in the passenger window.  The lady was face down on the roof of her car moving around, she looked lost.  I tried to open the passenger door but it was locked and the button wouldn't push in. The whole time I was scared that the smoke I was seeing was a fire that was about to explode (thank God it didn't)   I went over to the driver side to try and open the door.  The door frame was twisted from the impact, but when I hit the button the door popped open about 3/4".  I don't know how these skinny arms did it, but I managed to pull the door open.  It scraped a nice gouge out of the pavement too,  I hurt my squealing hand doing this too.

 The lady was facing towards the passenger door where I had initially tried to open the car.  By now there were about 4 or 5 bystanders helping and asking if she was ok.  She backed out of the car yelling "I'm ok! I'm ok!"  her faced was smashed and she was bleeding from her leg.  We told her to be still and stay calm the cops and fire department were on the way.  At this point people start asking about the other car, which I hadn't even thought of.  So I ran over to the jeep and the door was still closed.   I look in and there's a pretty lady about 30ish and she was out cold.  I opened the door and she started moving around.   We told her to keep still that help was on the way.  She was totaly uncohierant.  This all took about 5-10 min before the cops/ambulances started showing up.   They took my statement and sent me on my way.  

 I don't know what to say.  I grew up in houston and learned to drive there, but I've never seen anything like this and hope I never do again.   I was happy to be of some sort of help, but I'm left with a sick fealing afterwards.  Still shaking over an hour later.


EVERYBODY BE FREAKING CAREFUL OUT THERE!!! It's too easy to mess up and hurt/kill somebody!

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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2002, 09:36:15 AM »
Be extremely judgemental in removing or touching anyone in a case like that, I've heard of cases where they've sued rescuers that were not paramedics because of spinal injuries, etc.

I was first hand witness to many auto accidents (Mother and sister were in a volunteer rescue squad in NJ in the 70's, we tag along as 'support' , ambulance chaser have you but with back up rescue squad support) and after awhile you get used to seeing blood and gore.

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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2002, 10:02:02 AM »
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Be extremely judgemental in removing or touching anyone in a case like that, I've heard of cases where they've sued rescuers that were not paramedics because of spinal injuries, etc.
 


"They" never win those though.

It got to a point where even trained medical personnell off work tended to avoid getting involved, instead they just stood by waiting for their working collegues.

Some american lawyer prolly knows this better than me, but at least thats what we learned in lawschool here anyway (about the US law that is).

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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2002, 10:03:05 AM »
Your first reaction was the good one
Calling emergency services is a must in those cases.
WTG !


But as Ripnort said Try to NOT move a wounded person that can have a broken neck or something internal.

As far as I recall the order is :

Call Emergency.
Cut contact (switch off) of all the vehicules.
Except in case of fire or any other immediate emergency (sur-accident risk) don't move anyone.
Search for any person not screaming who is likely to be seriously wounded (those who are screaming are almost safe in general)
Try to know how many person were involved in the accident and search for all person.

Search for missing body part I know it's easy to said when you are under shock

Don't give any alcohol cofee etc ...


I'm sure some other person in this BBS are more aware than me of what to do or not do in such a case ...

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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2002, 10:10:27 AM »
Sounds like you did fine under the circumstances Udie. WTG and .

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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2002, 10:14:11 AM »
WTG UDIE!

If theres smoke coming out of the car they're in, SCREW them and their lawyers.. ill pull em out.

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2002, 10:15:17 AM »
Thanks tahgun, but it was instinct I didn't really think about what I was doing.  Except for not touching anybody.  I wasn't thinking about lawsuits but worried about injuring somebody.

 By back and my right hand are killing me now though :(  I think I pulled some muscles in my back opening that door.  Either pulled them or used them in their atrophied state ;)  either way it squealing hurts.


 2 hours later and my adrinaline is still pumping......

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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2002, 10:20:48 AM »
wtg Udie

shite happens in a New York Minute - thing is we all take it for granted until its too late ...


In Florida we have a Good Samaritan law which states if you are witness to an accident or come up on one with injuries and do not stop to help, you can be arrested...
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2002, 10:26:07 AM »
Some auto manufacturers (BMW comes to mind :) ) place the battery in the trunk, and any collision 5 mph or faster activates a mechanizm that automatically cuts the positive cable from the positive batter post, preventing any electrical current from entering the engine compartment that may set off fuel.  A small bit of engineering can prevent potential fire hazards.

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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2002, 10:36:29 AM »
All Fuel injected cars are required to have crash shut off switches to kill the in tank fuel pumps.

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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2002, 10:40:02 AM »
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All Fuel injected cars are required to have crash shut off switches to kill the in tank fuel pumps.


Rgr that, that technology has been around for awhile, although theres still plenty of fuel in the line enroute to the engine bay, the battery cut off helps reduce the potential of this fuel being ignited, and if the fuel tank itself is ruptured, the cut off switch from the fuel pump does little...

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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2002, 10:40:53 AM »
Eagler,

 I think we have that same law here in Texas though I'm not sure.


 Rip,

 Yeah I wish she would have had one.  The car was still running and tires still spinning when we got to the car.  I was really scared for the first minute or 2 but it stopped smoking after that and I forgot about the danger.

 Man I'll never forget the confused look on her broken face, she's somebodies mom, ya know? Probobly somebodies grandma.  Ahhh crap I'm becoming a bleeding heart.

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WTG Udie!
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2002, 11:10:46 AM »
You did the right thing, Udie. A lot of people wouldn't have had the guts or the inclination to go help like you did.

8 years ago, I lost control of my car(1985 Honda CRX) in a blizzard, and got broadsided by a semi on the driver's door. This was during rush hour in Minneapolis. After being catapulted and spinning, my crushed car came to rest on the left shoulder of I94. As I did an inventory on myself to see what injuried I had, I waited for someone to stop and help me out. Out of the thousands of gawkers that slowed down to look at me, nobody stopped to help, not even the truck driver who hit me. So, unbuckling my seatbelt with right arm(left arm was severely broken), I grabbed by left arm with my right, and crawled out the passenger side.  As got out, I finally saw one guy who stopped. He came over and asked me how I was, and after exclaming "I just got hit by a semi and LIVED!" I asked him to find my dog, who had been sitting in the passenger seat with me, and who had jumped out the window after the accident. He took off and I didn't see him again for about 10 minutes. In the meantime, as I stood there in shock, nobody else stopped, but they did gawk. After 10 mins, I see the guy come walking back to me, with my dog in tow on her leash. She was uninjured, and had managed to cross 4 lanes of traffic unscathed.

Anyway, 8 years later, the dog and I are still alive and well, thanks to that one guy who stopped to help. To this day I wish I had written down his name, because he was there for me to talk to as I waited an hour for the ambulance to get to me(lots of snow and ice on the roads). Good samaritans are hard to come by these days, but they are unbelievably important to people who get into accidents.

Udie, you're going to heaven for that act. :)

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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2002, 11:14:48 AM »
WTG Udie!
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2002, 12:28:15 PM »
WTG Udie!

The FDB's do have a heart ;)