Author Topic: ubb r0xx0rz (Read 1051 times)

funkedup · « **on:** October 31, 2001, 01:17:00 AM »

Ain't got no NNTP at work.

Arlo · « **Reply #1 on:** October 31, 2001, 01:24:00 AM »

Which is definately something to consider. Personally, I'd like to see HT and co. set up an nntp that mirrors the UBB. Then everyone has whatever they like best and nobody is "left out" (or feels inconvenienced by having to bebop back and forth).

Seeker · « **Reply #2 on:** October 31, 2001, 01:33:00 AM »

The work access is a real problem, and the only meaningfull reason for UBB's that I've ever seen.

However, as Arlo says, there are software packages around that allow both, and NTTP functionality is so far and away ahead of UBB that it makes it very worthwhile to consider.

Not the least of which are archiveing and kill files!

Rotorian · « **Reply #3 on:** October 31, 2001, 01:44:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Seeker:

kill files!

Imagine that, some of yas would never have to see my silly typings

fats · « **Reply #4 on:** October 31, 2001, 03:16:00 AM »

good luck trying to get NNTP, it's been asked ever since that UBB place called AGW became one of the most used place in WB.

// fats

Kieran · « **Reply #5 on:** October 31, 2001, 06:14:00 AM »

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Originally posted by fats:
good luck trying to get NNTP, it's been asked ever since that UBB place called AGW became one of the most used place in WB.

// fats

In a "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" sorta way, I had something to do with this. AGW was becoming immensely popular, and board admin was becoming a nightmare for Argo. I was running UBBS and suggested he come in and look around. I gave him admin rights, and after a few days he was sold. You guys hated it, but from an admin standpoint it was much better for him.

Yup, blame Kieren for the board you hate!

Seeker · « **Reply #6 on:** October 31, 2001, 06:38:00 AM »

Strange you say that Kieran, we run several NNTP newsgroups for AW, and there's always at least 4 groups for each event (one for each side, one for CM's and one general) and we do it that way because admin's easier. What, from an admin point of view, makes UBB atractive?)

Kieran · « **Reply #7 on:** October 31, 2001, 06:47:00 AM »

I don't have current NNTP software to compare against, so I cannot say. At the time, Argo was using a java applet to run his board I believe, and the UBBS software allowed him much easier access than what he was using. I also allowed him to set moderators, taking the workload off of him a bit. I'm sure current NNTP could do that, I just happened to get to him first.

SB · « **Reply #8 on:** October 31, 2001, 08:32:00 AM »

There is software that allows web and nntp access for the same messages. O'Reilly has one that does both but it's pricey. I think it runs about $2k

Ripsnort · « **Reply #9 on:** October 31, 2001, 08:36:00 AM »

Man, if folks are squeaking about the BBS format, that means theres not alot left in the game that HTC can make better!

Kieran · « **Reply #10 on:** October 31, 2001, 08:39:00 AM »

UBB when I introduced it to Argo cost $50 IIR. No contest- he was doing that out of his own pocket.

Westy MOL · « **Reply #11 on:** October 31, 2001, 09:34:00 AM »

OReilly boards are garbage. Gamestorm, in it's last iteration, used them and they sukked.

My personal preference is NNTP. But as has been pointed out it would cost $$$ for HTC to use a program that does both. An example of which BD5Pilot mentioned. Speed here is not much of an issue imo. Most folks are on a LAN or cable/dsl service these days. Not all, but a heck of a lot. Not as bad as when we all had to "make do" with 28.8, 36.6 or 56k dial ups.

It may also ultimately boil down to why would HiTech ever want to change? In other words "for what"? What benefit does it offer the overall AH community and most importantly HTC? More of what we've all had to read here this past week? Well IMO such a choice already exists. It's an nntp server with a newsgroup called 'BigWeek'

I suggest that instead of trying to change the AH webboards into another BigWeek that the residents of BigWeek offer up the nntp addy and invite the AH community there. BEst of both worlds already exists. Someone make the bridge. I would but it's not my place as a non participant in BW anymore to offer up the nnttp addy.

Westy

Arlo · « **Reply #12 on:** October 31, 2001, 10:04:00 AM »

1: Hell, Westy. Not visiting your old haunts was your decision, amigo. But if you truly feel that it wasn't your place to "light the way there" since you no longer visit it, why'd you even bring it up?

2: If you think mirroring the ubb with an nntp server would be a waste of expense and just promote "more of the same", what makes you think sending the entire crowd here to BigWeek would be a good option (even if it is more cost effective for HiTech Creations)?

3: Hold your horses. Neutral ground via nntp is being considered as "we speak".

Westy, I've (virtually) known you for years and truly consider you a friend (you've shown it and I remember it). Remember me? I'm the guy who got pretty damned tore up when I saw you and you-know-who at each other's throats and then you turned your back and hit the door. I kinda figured you'd be glad to see many of your old BW friends arrive (even though many arrived a bit too boisterous and swaggering for the tastes of many here).

But ... I certainly didn't expect you to take it as an opprotunity to pick sides and go at your old friends the way you are. Hell, even threads that are nothing more than someone asking a legitimate question and recieving a legitimate answer are encouraged to devolve down to "How dare you new-uns walk in he-yar and criteesize us and deemand change and awl!"

Granted, I saw the day when you were one of the most loyal and outspoken members of "the lunatic fringe", so I shouldn't be surprised to see you loyal and outspoken here. As a matter of fact, demanding change was alot of what it was about when you made your split with the BW community. And you were and still are considered one of the most prolific posters and holders of BW traditions. But I figured there'd be at least enough of a thread connected still for you to remember, relate and try to be more of a mediator than a regulator.

I still consider you a pretty good friend, Westy. Even though you don't seem to want to acknowledge such ties in public AH circles.

Westy MOL · « **Reply #13 on:** October 31, 2001, 10:22:00 AM »

Arlo please don't blend it all together and call it the same. I see a difference between many old friends (you're definately included) coming here and joining us in AH. Sorry for the circumstance (not really but hey, I'm trying to be nice about it <G> ) but I just cannot say some of you put your best foot forward. IMO what you , Rotor and a few did was come along and basically shake the apple cart here with some pretty ridiculous trolling and general behavior. You guys don't behave that way on BigWeek but several of you go on as if you do. You wouldn't stand for "unkowns" coming to Bigweek and doing the same. And to most AHers, BigWeek and it's denizens are the unkown. Sorry if you feel I'm stepping on toes, I'm not trying to, but I'm not the only ex-AW/Bigweeker who sees it that way. Most of the humour passed off here has been of the "you had to be there" type and most here were not. A lot of it is "in your face" humour that's just over the line or "way out there." That works fine for folks who've know each other for quite a long time. Five days isn't a long time

Westy

p.s. I really hate to see it appear that you're linking "friendship" with having to accept the "style" of posting this last few days. Escpecially when said style is not normal in the least for any of the people posting and in fact it's being done to provoke the natives here.

[ 10-31-2001: Message edited by: Westy MOL ]

Arlo · « **Reply #14 on:** October 31, 2001, 11:43:00 AM »

Methinks you're doing a fair amount of "blending" yourself, amigo. :| I've tried to keep things pretty light-hearted. And when that even offended some, I backed off entirely and tried to keep it square and honest ... only to see the offended party keep going for the jugular (something that most people realize generally backfires).

ShruG

Maybe it'll all stabilize and things will, for the most part, go back to the way they were (infighting amongst the jerks and fun amongst the rest). Maybe I'll be considered an "AW villian" by some from now on (which I find ironic and hope you do too). Either way, Westy ..... I've not let it affect our friendship. If that's what you came off thinking with my last post, I'm sorry you took it that way - wasn't the intention.

I was just surprised by ya. I figured you'd mediate and/or translate and not chastise so much. That's ok, I've adopted the mediator/translator role. I only hope it isn't too compromised by the blending. :