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Offline mietla

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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2002, 11:05:56 AM »
The model is cheap (I think I paid les then $50), but then I went to a local D&J Hobbies to get the paint and tools... $120
I'm seriously thinking about getting another kit. I've screwed up this one in a number of places, and this time I know how to do it right. I still have the paint, the tools, the setup...

As far as the cost of paint is concerned, you can cut a lot of corners. I bought all the colors listed in the instructions without revieweg what colors they are and where they are used. I did not want to take another trip to the store, so I bought them all. It totalled around 40 colors, but some of these colors are almost identical. There are probably 4-5 shades of silver/metallic. Many colors are barely used and some of them are used to paint details which are hidden in a finished model.

I'm guessing that you could probablky eliminate half of those colors (this way or another).
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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2002, 11:16:00 AM »
Just to note that that is a particularly expensive model.
Most of the planes that we fly here are available in 1/48th scale from Tamiya, Hasagawa,Revell, Hobby craft(hard to find an La7)
Prices range considerably. But very nice kits could be had for 20 US.
Start with something that has a simple paint scheme. Not only in the cam pattern but on the canopy..
If you want a recomendation for a first kit here it is.
The tamiya 1/48th scale spit Vb.  One of the best fitting kits ever made it goes together without filling or sanding any gaps.
The markings provided in the kit are very good. The pait scheme requires only a few colours that are available from Tamiya in an easy to use acrylic paint. The cam pattern has no feather to the edges so a brush painted version is perfectly realistic.
So you need the Tamiya spit for 20 US or so.
An xacto knife with a pack of fresh blades.
Get Ocean Grey, Dark Green and Medium Grey for the cam pattern(try to get acrylics they are easier to work with.) Flat Black, Flat White, Silver maybe a few others.
A good bottle of Glue, You can use the tube of testors glue but a thin glue like Abrose Pro weld works better.....
You will need some white glue for the canopy..
Some water for the decals...

Of course at some point you will want to invest in some sand paper..an air brush..some decal solvents..etc etc ..
And maybe you want to find the markings for the london butcher so you can paint that spit Vb  the same as the one in AH...
But the basics for building a good quality kit are pretty cheap.

Very nice Zero..
Thanks for sharing it with us..

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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2002, 11:32:01 AM »
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What type of model maker are the best?  


From my (limited) experience Tamiya and Hasegawa are definitely the best. They offer a stunning detail , the parts fit perfectly and their paints cover very well.

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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2002, 11:32:38 AM »
I have a 1:72 La-7 kit made in Chekoslovakia in 1975. Still has the CCCP stamps on the box. Paid about $5 for it and I am afraid to build the sucker now.

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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2002, 05:59:57 PM »
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BTW...you think the decals are too thick? Do you use acid to settle them into the engraved panel lines? They seemed thick in the pictures...and that it typical for tamiya.



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As a matter of fact, yes I do think that they are too thick. I'm a very inexperienced modeler, so I did not know about the acid technique. Sure I've glued some together when I was 10-12, but this is my second serious model. I've done a Hasegawa Tomcat eight years ago, and now your Tamiya post awoke my interests in this hobby.

I tried to do this model right. I've set up my workplace, did not rush, but still I've commited a number of mistakes that I regret now. I'm seriously thinking about getting another kit to do it right this time. After the first one I think I know how to change a sequence of painting/assembly to get an optimal results. Unfortunatelly, the instructions are not optimal in this regard. They do not indicate which side of the element need a paint, they just indicate the color. I did not try to think ahead to figure our which side to paint and which to leave alone, so as a result many elements are not painted right. Also, very often it is better to glud a bunch of parts together and then paint them.

Another example of a screw up on my part. I was able to make an almost perfect coat of paint on the underside. Very even, very thin and thus showing all the panels and rivets. I was very happy with it. But then I taped only the edges 1/2 inch or so, before applying the top coat of paint. Big mistake! The top coat was great as well, again I was very happy with it, but guess what... the bottom was misted over. My perfect bottom coat was ruined. No problem I said, I'll just fix it. To make a long story short, by the time I was done fixing the top layer looked horrible.

Another obvious and horrible looking screw up are the yellow leading edges of the wing decals. For some reason they've designed it as three pieces per wing. Bad design. Should have been a single piece. Maybe someone can align them perfectly, I obviously could not. I'm thinking about ripping it off and just painting the yellow edges over.

This time I'm going to tape over the entire model real well.

Anyway, I have not decided whetehr I'll build another kit soon yet, but if I decide not to do it, anyone interested in a paint set? Most of them hardly used, and I don't want them to dry up in my garage. Whoever wants them, they can have them.

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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2002, 06:46:06 PM »
Hell,  I'l take them, but I'll pay ya something for them.

BUT!  You should not stop.  It looks very nice!  Ya got talent!!

Take a break and then try again if you are not satidified, but it seems like you are damn good at it!!

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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2002, 06:52:41 PM »
double post
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« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2002, 06:53:28 PM »
Even if I decide to build another kit, there will be a lot of paint left over. As I said, some of them were used to paint a single 1mm x 2mm detail  which is not visible after the model is finished. Like the golden/brass valves on the oxygen bottles burried inside the fuselage behind the pilot seat.

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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2002, 06:54:43 PM »
Nice Mietla!

Don't bother with cheap kits if you are starting out!

Just buy a good new Hasegawa or Tamiya kit. They cost a bit more but the better fit will make it easier to build cleanly than a cheap old kit. It will be easier and more fun. Two really
great kits to start out with are the Hasegawa 1/48 Bf109G6-G14-G10-K4 series. As a new guy avoid the Bf109F-G2 series as they have a slight fit problem with their different cowl arrangement, you prolly wont care but itv will take some effort to align it right. The other great kit is Tamiya's FW190 A series. They are easy to put together.  
A decent fitting cheap kit with recessed panel lines is the Revell_Monogram 1/48 Bf109G10. It costs about $10.

Dont buy models of Spitfires, they are all ugly. :)

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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2002, 07:11:11 PM »
Ok ... so where's a good place to pick up these models?  Local hobby store?  I prefer to get 'em online, anyone got a good spot?  

Ok, so Tamiya makes the best models.  Should I also use Tamiya paint?

Nim

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« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2002, 03:08:41 AM »
You can go to your LHS or try mailorder places.

A good mailorder source is: http://www.squadron.com

Tamiya paint is OK but I like a brand called PollyScale better. The problem with Tamiya paints is that they dont have any standard FS or RLM (USA and LW military standard) colors available, they just tell you to mix them. Polly Scale has premade accurate military colors, plus it costs less. :)

BTW I like acrylics over enamels in most cases. Tamiya and Polly Scale are acrylics.

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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2002, 10:03:20 AM »
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Nice Mietla!

 Two really great kits to start out with are the Hasegawa 1/48 Bf109G6-G14-G10-K4 series.

A decent fitting cheap kit with recessed panel lines is the Revell_Monogram 1/48 Bf109G10. It costs about $10.

 


ditto on the g10, it's very nice.

the others you mention - i had a dog of a time with the radiator flaps. i will say at least they give you that option and if you're patient enough to sit there while they dry in place they look great.

also i'm not sure why they didn't mold the bulen on the g14 right onto the fuselage - i had to use filler to get them to fit right.

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« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2002, 11:00:00 AM »
If you haven't taken a look at the stuff at this site, I'm sure you'll all enjoy it:

http://www.hyperscale.com

You can get lots of inspiration looking at the kits these folks have built, and the subjects vary from WWI to Civil Aviation to AFV's.  Also some informative articles, tips, book and kit reviews can be found here.  If you're having trouble finding a particular Hasegawa or Tamiya kit, or if you want to shop around, try this link:

http://www.hlj.com

It's a company located in Japan, but owned and run by an expat. American.  Pretty good prices when I compared my local hobby shop prices with them... just pick up a few more kits or things to even out the shipping cost ;)

Enjoy!

mauser

P.S.  Nimitz, Tamiya paint is great, but if you can find Poly Scale it's great too.  Also heard good things about Gunze Sangyo and Aeromaster paints.  This is for acrylics (water based), I'm not sure about enamels.  
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« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2002, 11:11:21 AM »
wow!  It came with tape so you could paint the canopy frames???   Hehe, I haven't made a model in about 15 years, but I remember having to either cut the tape myself, or try to paint with a toothpick and a steady hand!  :)
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« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2002, 03:13:03 PM »
"the others you mention - i had a dog of a time with the radiator flaps. i will say at least they give you that option and if you're patient enough to sit there while they dry in place they look great.

also i'm not sure why they didn't mold the bulen on the g14 right onto the fuselage - i had to use filler to get them to fit right."




They will both fit fine and dry quickly if you use liquid cement from the bottle and not the tube cemet. First glue the outside single flap, let it dry. Then glue the lower inside flap, let it dry. Then glue the upper one. :)

The Beule on all 109G kits must be seperate due to molding restrictions.  The fit fine on Hasegawa kits. Make sure you clean up the sprue gates and nicely and it will be clean. :)