Maybe a PTO set up soon?

[BigCrate]

I was thinking maybe we could get a PTO set up in the CT. Maybe like the battle for rerbaul or something along those lines. I asked nuttz today in the MA if he would make a PTO map.  And he said he would after he finished everything else. So what yall think about that?? Having a battle for rebaul set up??

Cw
=Twin Engined Devils=

[Löwe]

Would love it!:D

[Wotan]

hope not pac set ups suk

cv parks 3 miles off your base with f6fs hoin runnin to ack ho run to ack over and over.

That and pac setups bring in the milkrunners.

[oboe]

You're just not flying the F6F correctly, Wotan.  It can do a lot more than HO and run to ack.  

This time around, the Japanese will have a buff of their own to harass the CV fleets.   Might be a little more interesting.  We did have some great F6/Ki.61 fights last time.

[eddiek]

Milkrunning happens in all the setups, just part of the game I guess.
My most fun has been in the Pacific setups, but that was the theater I was most interested in growing up.  Let's get another Pac setup in soon.  Ya'll listening CT staff?  
Wotan, I know what you're talking about, with the CV stuff.  I grew tired of it too.  Best solution has to come from HTC tho.  Make the fleet ack target anything in range, including friendlies, and you would see less of the ack hugging on both sides.  Give the CV commander the ability to tell his gunners to open fire or hold fire, depending on the situation.  Just a thought........

[Tac]

would be good if the PAC map made all waters up to 20 miles from shore be "shallow water"...aka, no fleets can go within 20 miles of land. Would make for interesting air battles.

[eddiek]

Cool idea, Tac!  Never thought of that........
Seems we saw more people in the Pac setups than what we got now........never more than 12 folks in Stalingrad, ZERO just now when I logged out.  Might not be peak times, I know, but you wonder...............

[Sabre]

I'm partial to Pac set ups too.  We'll see what we can work into the rotation.  Biggest problem is still terrains and limited planeset.  I know you've been hearing that for a while, but the problem has no good short term solution.  As for camping the CV off shore, I'm advocating making CV respawn time at least an hour, so once you sink the carrier, they've got a long wait before they can even begin to move it towards shore again.  The ability to adjust this time setting from zero to six hours was a welcome addition to the CM tools.

Sabre
CT Staff

[Wotan]

look during those pac setups my kd was 2 to 1 just flying a zeke.

I know no one ever hos and runs to ack I am making it up

This setup is suffering from the same thing pac set ups suffer from. The limited number of Russian planes.

But the thing about pac setups we've had in the past is the entire us planeset is available compared to the at the time 3 ija/n planes.

The ija/n planset has no jabo/buff capability so its pointless to assault fields unless you have 5 or more.


The milk running was more then just a pain it ruined what little fun there was. You would log off and come bac the next day and someone had taken all the axis bases except 3. I guess they got bored near the end.

the axis couldn't even sink a cv that was offshore because no jabo.

I np had getting kills just the a2a combat was bad for te reason I stated in my first post ho run to ack ho. I know no one does it and and earth moving was impossible.

I guess if I liked allied planes it would a been great

I appreciate that some guys love the pac stuff and being a lw fan I never really cared about it. I dont even read very much about pac air war. Just no interest in it. But any one can see that the ija/n are even more at a disadvantage then they were in rl.

The best setups for me when the plane are as evenly matched as possible (like the bob). But until we get the planes we need I just fly the setups I like.

[brady]

We have a couple realy great map's in the works for a PAC set up, the Kuriels: a set up for Aug 1945 with the Russians VS the Japanese (no CV"S), and rumor has it a Burma map is also being worked on ( no CV"S).

[hazed-]

from what i saw of the pac set up it just wasnt populated like you guys seem to think it would be.
Same as the stalingrad map.The idea sounds good but people just dont use it.
I personally love the idea of an eastern front setup but the stalingrad map as it stands needs some work.Long flights and, it seems, several bugs like being unable to use .move command for me have made this a bit of a frustrating map (for me) so I havent played in it much.
We still have the Germany map but this also needs more bases or forward fields as 10bears discussed adding recently.
It seems HTC was correct when they said bases need to be within a certain game limit rather than set to 'how they were in RL'.The idea sounds great but to play them in practice doesnt work so well.

You guys saying the IJN now have a bomber with which to harrass the US CV should remember that the ki67 only carries a 500kg bomb which means you need a minimum of 8 to sink just the CV.
I flew as much as i could stand for IJN but it meant constantly being BnZ'd in zeros or Ki's in order to save enough perks so that i could fly a nik and have half a chance against all the USAAF stuff.

As AH stands it is simply far to weighted in favour of USAAF aircraft.People dont want to play on a side that has little chance of succeeding.If PTO maps return im going to save myself a huge headache and fly for USAAF myself.

IMO I think there is enough planes for a BOB setup.also a late or middle war setup in Euro theatre with US/RAF vs LW .Also with both sides having only a small planeset a russian vs IJN setup would probably work.But the PTO planeset needs ballance.we need either more early US stuff like F4F and Dauntless or more japanese aircraft in order for there to be a greater choice of roles and therefore more incentive to fly as them.There doesnt seem to be enough fans of the planes to keep the sides even in the PTO setups.

[BigCrate]

Ok how bout this... What about a fall of 1943 thru spring of 1944
daylight bombing camp. That is when the b17s and b24s were getting there tulips chewed by the LW. And the 8th AF almost stopped daylight bombing all together. It would be early war plane set. P-51bs early P-47s and since we have no early P-38s
the L will have to do. I'm not sure about the LW fighters I know the 190a8 would be one.
So how about tis set up??

Cw
=Twin Engined Devils=

[Lephturn]

Originally posted by Wotan
The ija/n planset has no jabo/buff capability so its pointless to assault fields unless you have 5 or more.

Not anymore.  The Ki-67 is a VERY effective bomber and it's very fast.

Originally posted by Wotan
I np had getting kills just the a2a combat was bad for te reason I stated in my first post ho run to ack ho. I know no one does it and and earth moving was impossible.

I had a GREAT time flying the Tony in the last PAC setup.  It's reasonably fast and very maneuverable.  It dives very well too, and is great for surprising Allied fliers that assume they are untouchable in "faster" planes.  The only time I had trouble with folks "ho'ing and running to ack" were when the IJN were coming in above them with numbers and the Allied planes were close to their base.  Even then, I didn't have a big problem with it... I just backed off a bit and grabbed some alt, then killed them.  Avoiding HO's is easy and nets me easy kills... so I love it when they attempt to HO me.

Originally posted by Wotan
I guess if I liked allied planes it would a been great

I appreciate that some guys love the pac stuff and being a lw fan I never really cared about it. I dont even read very much about pac air war. Just no interest in it. But any one can see that the ija/n are even more at a disadvantage then they were in rl.

The best setups for me when the plane are as evenly matched as possible (like the bob). But until we get the planes we need I just fly the setups I like.

Well you've made it obvious that you are a LW fan, and that's what you prefer.  Fine, there are lots of CT setups that include the LW.... almost all of them actually.  So if you don't like this setup... tough nuggets.  Lots of folks DO like this setup.  Sure, some adjustments may need to be made for gameplay balance, but it's still a great fun setup.

[ergRTC]

my thoughts exactly, and remember it has been easter guys, I am sure stalingrad will fill a little more now that the holiday is over.

[Ripsnort]

I have 32 votes for PTO set up!