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« on: April 13, 2002, 12:14:13 AM »
Heh, copied from Whitley Streiber's 'UnknownCountry' website:

Ronald Mallett, a physicist at the University of Connecticut, believes he knows how to build a time machine. He has designed a machine that can transport anything from an atom to a person from one time to another. “I hope to have a working mockup and start experiments this fall,” he says. “I would think I was a crackpot, too, if there weren’t other colleagues I knew who were working on it. This isn’t Ron Mallett’s theory of matter; it’s Einstein’s theory of relativity. I’m not pulling things out of the known laws of physics.”
Alan Guth, a physics professor at MIT who has studied the theory of time machines, says he doesn’t think time travel is a possibility, “Definitely not within our lifetimes.”

Physicist Stanley Deser, of Brandeis University, says the problem is not the physics, it’s whether time travel can be made to work. “This is about trying to amass all the matter of the universe in a very small region,” he says. “Good luck.”

Mallett’s boss, William Stwalley, chairman of the physics department, says, “His ideas certainly have merit. I think some of his ideas are very interesting and they would make nice tests of general relativity.”

Mallett’s time machine uses only a ring of light. According to Einstein’s theory of gravity, anything that has mass or energy distorts the space and the passage of time around it, like a bowling ball dropped on a trampoline. Circulating laser beams in the right way, by slowing them down and shooting them through anything from fiber-optic cable to special crystals, might create a similar distortion that could theoretically transport someone through different times, Mallett believes.

Mallett and his colleagues plan to build a device to test whether it’s possible to transport a subatomic particle, probably a neutron, through time. The energy from a rotating laser beam would warp the space inside the ring of the light so that gravity forces the neutron to rotate sideways. With even more energy, it’s possible that a second neutron will appear. The second particle would be the first one visiting itself from the future.

While Mallett realizes that sending a person through time may require more energy than physicists today know how to harness, he sees it merely as “an engineering problem.” If it’s possible to use light to send a neutron through time, he believes it won’t be long before engineers figure out a way to send a person. “What we’re talking about is at the edge of current technology, not beyond current technology,” he says.

Ever since his father died of lung cancer at the age of 33, when Mallett was 10 years old, Mallett has longed to travel back in time to warn him about the dangers of cigarettes. But it wasn’t until a few years ago that he arrived at his idea of how to build a time machine.

He doesn’t worry about potential paradoxes, such as time travelers killing their parents and making it impossible for them to exist, because time travelers would exist in a parallel universe. He says, “Any technology has a potential nefarious side to it, but I don’t think there's a way to stop it. We as a species have always reached out. We’ve been doing that since the caves. I say let’s make it so that we better reality. I think we can bravely do that.”

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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2002, 01:16:42 AM »
I was listening to Art Bell (ya I know I know) who had some guy on talking about time travel.  This person made it sound very possible and even provided several accounts of what one would consider time "distortion" rather than travel.  Had something to do with a rotating turntable of a material I can't recall, the whole contraption insulated from electomagnetic interference.  The experiments they were doing had resulted in accelerated growth rates of various plants.  ie: plants within the "machine" grew X amount of time faster than plants outside, but all were under the exact same environmental conditions and only inches (or perhaps feet) apart.  The guy said he believed that outright believable proof of the possibility of time travel is probably 5 to 10 years away, however actually moving living objects through time "intact" wouldn't happen before our grandkids were in thier graves.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2002, 01:51:18 AM »
you can travel forward in time but never backwards because of the paradox, in fact i travel forward in time every night, i just close my eyes and hours pass by instantly.

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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2002, 03:39:50 AM »
So if it was possible,what age would You want to go back?

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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2002, 07:14:18 AM »
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Originally posted by ~Caligula~
So if it was possible,what age would You want to go back?


Hehe, I'd go back to high school days in 1974, when I was a senior in high school.  We had music from Led Zepplin, Jethro Tull, and the Beatles to listen to.  Movies such as Mad Max to watch on the big screen.  I remember when "Crazy Larry and Dirty Mary" was in the theater, and it was really good.


The Mississippi state line was only 30 miles away, and we could drink there at 18.  We would go there in a 1964 Rambler Classic with a straight six that got about 30 miles to the gallon, and had a top end of 110 mph.  We'd go to either the Red Barn, the Beach Club (which was nowhere near a beach), or Johnny's Smoke House, which was about like Porky's.

The cars were cool back then:  Firebirds, Camaros, and Chevelle SS were the redneck's choice.  Even Alabama State Troopers were driving Javelins and Corvettes...LOL.  

One last thing...8 track players in cars were the ultimate luxury in driving pleasure.  Not that many folks had 'em, but it sure was fun to see where someone had trailed about 100 yards of 8-track tape along the roadway.  You don't see that much anymore.  Back then it was art to a young mind, and worthy of contemplation.  

Thank you Caligula.  Let me know when the machine is ready.  

 


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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2002, 08:49:06 AM »
Don't forget, the '70s gave us disco, polyester leisure suits, and "Three's Company" (or worse, "The Ropers").

Ugh.

Believe me when I tell you we aren't sitting around campfires wailing, "Why, oh WHY did 'KC & the Sunshine Band' have to break up!"

Barry Manilow, and the black Barry Manilow, Lionel Richie.

The Carter Malaise.

Ugh.

Mood rings. Pet rocks. Afros. Shorts that rode up your butt crack.

Ugh.

The only thing I want back is my youth- I don't miss the "culture".

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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2002, 10:03:39 AM »
I would love to go back to the great library at Alexander.  With a low light camera and more film than I could carry.  Although there are a number of historical "TIMES" I would love to visit. I think That one is the top of the list.
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2002, 12:25:04 PM »
I don't want to travel in time, however I would send an autonomous recording device to the time of Christ, the period of the pyramids construction, the period of the Exodus, the JFK assassination, and warnings to Abraham Lincoln, Pearl Harbor, and 9/11; just to name a few.

I don't believe this device will ever be able to pierce the veil of time before its own construction, though. It might be a great stasis device for 'freezing' someone suffering from an illness we have no cure for, or something similar (space travel, etc.). but travelling back in time? I don't think it would be very effective, if even possible.

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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2002, 01:05:51 PM »
You guys are thinking linear time travel.  Suppose time exists in multiple parallel threads in space.  Much like a gigantic railroad yard where thousands and thousands of tracks are running parallel to each other.
Each one of the tracks represents another aspect of the same time period (for instance, in one of the time lines/tracks, maybe Pearl Harbor was not bombed).  Instead of traveling back in our current time line.  You move a bit diagonally to another time line.  If you go backwards, you jump into a time line which has no bearing on the current timeline, other than you just disappear from it.  The timeline you jumped into is the one that is effected.

This theory solves the paradox of time travel. It is also used to help explain "Deja vu (not the pilot,...i dunt know an explanation for him :D)".  Periodically when space gets bent from various gravitaional sources in our own solar system it causes a breif intertwining with another time thread.  When we intersect with that disruption, we get that feeling we have been there before because we have.
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2002, 04:06:46 PM »
That's a big supposition (no pun intended). The approach these scientists are taking seems limited in extent (intuitively). Time will tell (heh).

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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2002, 05:32:44 PM »
wow. Imagine.. going back in time and buying 80% of MS stock when they were a garage company. Woot

Ew.. that IS one dangerous machine.

OTH, if time travel can only go foward, i'd instantly hop to a time where humanity has spaceships and colonies.. I've always wanted to be in that time. :)

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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2002, 05:38:33 PM »
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I remember when "Crazy Larry and Dirty Mary" was in the theater, and it was really good.


 


Wow Les theres a film I hadn't heard of for a long time. (Although I'm sure it was "Dirty Mary & Crazy Larry" but you could be right). ;)

Was that the one where the car hit the freight train at the end?
oops... there ya go gone and spoilt it for the rerun on Cable :D.

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Sign on bar entrance. "No spitting, Swearing or Dogs" Larry (Peter Fonda)?? Turns to Mary (Susan George)?? and says "Well Girl that just about covers your act".

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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2002, 05:56:36 PM »
wow interesting read!

i searched the web about Time and landed on a old Inka Prophecy.
The Inka's prophecies are intertwined with the legends of Pachacuti. They speak about the end of history, the end of time, and the reemergence of the Inka. The pacos of the Andes, though, believe that it does not mean the return of a great ruler like the Inkas of old, but that the prophecies talk about a tear in the fabric of time itself, that will allow us to leap, to "jump" into who we are becoming 10,000 years from now. And they believe that the time of the prophecies is now, that the cycle began in the early 1990s and will be completed by the first decade of the next millennium. Like the Hopi, the Inka believe that this will be a period of tremendous upheaval in the world, where all of the structures of the past-economic, medical, educational, societal-will be dismembered, like a farmer plowing his fields back into the earth, for new and more ecological structures to emerge.


Now, could the "tear in the fabric of time" be Ronald Mallett work ? ;)

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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2002, 06:11:13 PM »
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Mallett and his colleagues plan to build a device to test whether it’s possible to transport a subatomic particle, probably a neutron, through time. The energy from a rotating laser beam would warp the space inside the ring of the light so that gravity forces the neutron to rotate sideways. With even more energy, it’s possible that a second neutron will appear. The second particle would be the first one visiting itself from the future.
 
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Sounds weird.  Would they see the second neutron before they start the experement?  Would there be no neutron present when the experement is running?  How many neutrons were missing from the hash that they smoked?  Just kidding, it's beyond me I guess.

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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2002, 06:48:57 PM »
The paradoxes of backwards time travel are easily overcome: those who are going to travel backwards already have. The events we see are the result of closed loops with no paradoxes. What will happen has already happened and already affected the course of history in those areas that involved backwards time travel.

However, I like Stephen Hawkings approach to challenging the notion of backwards time travel: If people in the future had discovered time travel, why have they not come back and told us so?

His opposition suggested perhaps we already have seen time travelers, but we just don't recognize them as such. Perhaps they appear as UFOs or ghosts.

Stephen Hawking didn't even blink before attacking that response: the ravings of lunatics and idiots do not constitue evidence of time travel.

That was one hilarious PBS special on time :D
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