Author Topic: Anyone Else think... (Read 310 times)

Sikboy · « **on:** May 22, 2002, 10:17:38 AM »

The 190A8 is going to become a LOT more popular when the Bomber Boxes are introduced?

Dude, 20 buffs coming my way? The A8 is the only (non-perk)plane I want to be in for that. Guns-N-Ammo, oh yes... Guns-N-Ammo.

-Sikboy

Staga · « **Reply #1 on:** May 22, 2002, 10:43:08 AM »

Typhoon could be a good choice with A-8 thought then bombers should stay under 20k.
Over 20k Dora/G-10 with gondolas or P-47 would be much better choice

heh I forgot: Bf-110 G-2 with 2*30mm + 4*20mm can be a pain in the a_s if it has more alt than bombers

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #2 on:** May 22, 2002, 10:49:30 AM »

Does the Bf110-G2 have the legs to get over 20k and patrol? That weapons package would do the trick... that's for sure.

I also sense alot of people are going to be more willing to drop a few perkies on the Ta-152 and Me-262 if the buffs present themselves as such a choice target.

AKDejaVu

Animal · « **Reply #3 on:** May 22, 2002, 10:52:01 AM »

Bf110-G2 is going to be my buff killer.
It puts the 190a8 to shame

CavemanJ · « **Reply #4 on:** May 22, 2002, 10:58:16 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Does the Bf110-G2 have the legs to get over 20k and patrol? That weapons package would do the trick... that's for sure.

I also sense alot of people are going to be more willing to drop a few perkies on the Ta-152 and Me-262 if the buffs present themselves as such a choice target.

AKDejaVu

On the Ta-152 probably.

The Me-262 is most likely gonna be a wait and see deal. I've had a good of success hunting buffs in the 262 lately, having not lost a jet to a buff.

But I'm not just gonna dive right into all those guns controlled by only 2 people and commit suicide. Gonna have to attack boxes with other planes, like the pony or the jug, and fly a few myself and get a feel for'em first.

Sikboy · « **Reply #5 on:** May 22, 2002, 11:01:35 AM »

I don't care for the Typhoons ammo load for attacking the buff box. I don't know enough about the 110 to know how well it would be able to make slashing attacks. Based soley on looking at the thing, I wouldn't think that it was much for B&Z attacks, but you guys would know more than I do. Of course, with those guns, you probably only need 2 passes lol. I think the bomber Boxes will bring out the Historic Streangth of LuftWabble Aircraft as interceptors though.

-Sikboy

K West · « **Reply #6 on:** May 22, 2002, 11:01:46 AM »

In all honesty the A8 wallows up above 20k. If more bombers start making higher alt runs than they do now I'd rather have a P-47, F4U or P-38. They perform best at alt and have GOBS of ammo. So I'll have to wait and see what the bomber guys start doing. Like choosing the appropriate golf club at a gang fight I'll pick the right plane for the appropriate wacking

But in all honesty I have enough perks to stay in an F4U-1C until at least the year 2006. That will be my actual No.1 pick, but you said non-perked plane

Westy

mason22 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 22, 2002, 11:28:48 AM »

What about the D-9?

I'm not real familiar with all of the 190's....but have been watching a lot of Discovery Wings channel as of late. The Dora was supposed to be top notch.

Can anyone describe the main differences with 190's and when and where they "should" (as in what they were meant for) be used?

I know the AH Dora has an awesome ammo load. Seems like a good choice for buff huntin' ? no?

ra · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2002, 11:35:01 AM »

Put a frikkin crowbar in your wallets and spring for a Chog. Jeeeez.

KG45 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 22, 2002, 11:39:04 AM »

in AW the mossie was a popular anti-buffer. guns and ammo. decent speed. plenty of fuel. and 2 engines.

will that work here? what is its high alt performance?

Sikboy · « **Reply #10 on:** May 22, 2002, 11:53:26 AM »

Yes, the CHOG was originally in my post, but I edited it out to focus on the A8.

It's all speculation at this point, but I wonder what the best alt will be to drop bombs. Will the buffs be coming in at over 20k if the bomb variance makes an 8 buff formation useless at this alt? What I'm really getting at here, is that these additions are goin to change gameplay in ways that we don't even realise yet. But I'm going to have fun trying to figure it all out when it gets here

As far as other planes for intercepting Strato-Buffs...
P-38. I can't do much with only 150 20mm rounds. then I'm on my own with 4 .50s. Yikes, I suck way to bad for that. Not to mention my habit of compressing through the bomber formation, and not being able to pull out until I'm out of the fight.
P-47 8 .50s will probably do the trick, plus it's tough as nails.
Dora lacks the punch of the A8, but could do the job well I imagine.

-Sikboy

Seeker · « **Reply #11 on:** May 22, 2002, 12:02:29 PM »

Can we say MMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmossie!?

It's much beter than the A8 at height, especialy ludicrous height, though may be a bit more fragile.

I can see us all adapting LW tactics, in other´planes, with Mosies taking on the roll of buff destroyers, them selves escorted by ponies or jugs.

Wotan · « **Reply #12 on:** May 22, 2002, 12:39:52 PM »

in big week i took my a8 to 30k and killed 10 b17s and 5 assists in 4 frames. The 110g2 is way more fragile then an a8. I dumped my 13mm but the thing was a pig at anything above 23 k.

The problem with an a8 is its not an intercepter. You need to position yourself before the bombers get there. the g10 is different you can catch the buffs most of the time. The mossie is a slow climber as well.

I dont suspect there wil be a great change in the alt the buffs drop at. most likely you will have 12 to 20 at 12k trying to level an air field. Leopards dont change their spots.

It seems to me the p51s and jugs tear bombers up. Any plane the can get into position to establish a good set of passes will be effective as a buff killed.

The dora wasnt a buff hunter it was a counter to the p51.

Tac · « **Reply #13 on:** May 22, 2002, 01:52:23 PM »

Too bad we aint getting a Ju88 fighter version.

P47 , 109G10 and 190A8 for hi alt buff intercepts
P-38, Bf110G2, Mossie, P51 for mid to low alt intercepts.

The 262 and Ta152 I fear wont fare very well against the combined power of the buff guns. If NOW a 262 has a marginal chance of surviving IF the B17 gunner tracks him as the 262 makes the attack, I dont wanna know what will happen when said gunner has the ability to point 4X the firepower at the 262.

Me, i'll be taking an A-20 and hunt buff boxes. I'll have my 8 .50's (just how much ammo will they have I wonder?) and have turrets to play with too hehe

Lephturn · « **Reply #14 on:** May 22, 2002, 02:06:14 PM »

I'll probably set up the D-30 as my buff hunter, setting the convergence out much further than I do in the D-11 I normally fly. Problem for the Jug is it climbs pretty slowly. Once you are up there though, it's got 8 .50's, it's fast, and it's very tough. Will be my buff-hunter of choice.

Interceptor will be different... if I need to climb up to them first, I'll have to grab a real climb-deamon. Personally, I might choose the F4U-4. Fast, tough, decent guns. For a non-perk though, I think I'll try the Yak-BFG. That big honkin' cannon ought to get the job done.

Heh... with buff boxes... some of these LW rockets might actually be useful too! Hmmm... hafta try those out.

This is gonna be fun.