Author Topic: Limit the N1K to the 2 week free trial.  (Read 1936 times)

Offline beet1e

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« on: June 01, 2002, 06:32:17 AM »
OK, I realise that it will never happen, and on the face of things, it sounds like a fatuous suggestion. But it's perhaps not as silly as it sounds.

I was reading a post in here recently, and Ripsnort made the point that planes like LA7/N1K needed to be included in the plane set so that beginners would stand a chance. I think this makes good sense, because if the learning curve is made to be too steep, some people will become despondent and leave.

The trouble with the N1K and LA7 presence is that experienced pilots sometimes use them to have the best chance of survival. For others it's like a crutch for those who can't be bothered to learn ACM. I'm not the best ACMer, but I know enough to get by in the energy fighters. One of the best things that ever happened to me over on the dark side was when a guy called Stiglr finally persuaded me to let go of the Spit ix and fly a 190 instead. Much harder to fly, but also much more rewarding when learned. If we allowed the N1K only for those guys on the 2 week trial, then assuming they subscribed to the payment plan, they would be forced to step up to a real man's plane instead of dweebing around in one with training wheels.

I realise that not everyone will appreciate this suggestion. One third will hate it, one third will love it, and one third will be indifferent. But at least that means that two thirds wont hate it. ;)

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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2002, 06:35:34 AM »
Nah, just about everyone with a lick of common sense will hate it.

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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2002, 06:57:56 AM »
The N1K is a decent airplane  while the Spit V and Spit IX  have the same  ridiculous  UFO-FM.

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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2002, 07:31:23 AM »
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The N1K is a decent airplane  while the Spit V and Spit IX  have the same  ridiculous  UFO-FM.


Agree 100%

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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2002, 07:33:10 AM »
One of these days I'm going to get around to flying an entire tour only in a N1K just to see how I do.

Truthfully I way more Spit IXs and La7s than I see N1Ks, but I only pop into the MA occasionally.    I have more trouble with them than I do the N1K.   With the Shiden Kai, I usually  have an option to extend and disengage.   With the Spit 9 and La7, breaking off the fight is more problematic.

In general, posts that suggest limiting people's choices aren't well received.   You shoulda been here for the wailing when the F4U-1C was perked - and the F4U-1C was everywhere.  It racked up more than 20% of the total kills in a tour at least once.

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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2002, 07:48:50 AM »
What are people going to do when more and more and more planes become available to kill them :D :confused:  I measure success in an La7 not just by how many kills on an average run, but how well I perform against other La7s

KI    76
KO   35
KB    35
DI    74

I'll call it par, but I enjoy the driving range more than the course anyway; ever smack a bucket of golfballs a couple hundred yards with a 1wood after a hard day's work?  Mmm Mmmm.  Still workin the slice tho :rolleyes:
« Last Edit: June 01, 2002, 07:54:02 AM by Ogun »

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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2002, 08:52:48 AM »
Challenging late war planes is what makes the early war planes attractive to me.

Don't neuter my opponents, please.

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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2002, 10:10:49 AM »
This is without a doubt, the WORST IDEA EVER.

Three Times One Minus One.  Dayum!

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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2002, 10:34:46 AM »
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So did the aircraft types that wear the "Spit" tag last tour.  Imagine its K/D ratio if newbies weren't using it or it wasn't relied upon so heavily in a hopeless vulched base defense.  I don't think N1K or Spit should be perked though.  It would be interesting if pilot rank played into being a modifier for perk points.  Kill an "ace" in an LA7 while flying an 109E and get even more perks, but kill a newbie in an LA7 and get less perks.

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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2002, 12:42:00 PM »
Outlaw the N1k2, and only outlaws will have N1K2s


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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2002, 01:21:41 PM »
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Kill an "ace" in an LA7 while flying an 109E and get even more perks, but kill a newbie in an LA7 and get less perks.



Any movement towards a system that rewards you for killing an ace is a good one.  But how do you determine an ace?  The ranking system we have now isn't complex enough to give that  answer.

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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2002, 01:24:21 PM »
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The N1K is a decent airplane  while the Spit V and Spit IX  have the same  ridiculous  UFO-FM.


Ridiculous, UFO, in what way? No, on second thoughts with the usual high standards of empirical detail displayed by the above quote, don't go there, what's the point...

BS

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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2002, 01:31:33 PM »
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Ridiculous, UFO, in what way? No, on second thoughts with the usual high standards of empirical detail displayed by the above quote, don't go there, what's the point...

BS

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No dude, the following planes have UFO flight models:
F4U
F6F
P-38 (except for the dive break :mad: lol)
P-47
P-51
Typh (damn turbo-lazers)
Spitfire
La-7
N1k2
A6M5

The following planes are suspect
C.202
C.205
Ki-61
La5
Mossie
and Yak-9

All other fighters are unjustly undermodeled.

The sooner you accept this, the easier it is to get along here lol

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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2002, 02:30:44 PM »
Ridiculous, UFO, in what way?

 1) 15 G's movements  without structural failure
 2) Eternal nose up (also in the N1K)
 3) Outurn a Zeke (Spit V) :eek:
 4) Magical E maintenance
 5) One Hispano ping D800=kill
 6) Optimist roll-rate 200-300Mph
 7) etc, etc, etc...

The N1K is a 747 comparative with the Spit IX. The only advantaje
of N1K is ammo .

Sikboy don't forget the damned pt's and flacks ;)

Long live for the braves Hurricane pt killers!!!!

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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2002, 02:57:46 PM »
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No dude, the following planes have UFO flight models:
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Think you landed one there, SB.
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