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Offline Pongo

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« on: June 05, 2002, 11:19:44 AM »
Why doesn’t NASA take a shuttle to the moon?
Friend and I were talking about the moon shots and I started to wonder why the US hasn’t just re visited it in a shuttle? Certainly with some smaller solid fuels pre stocked in orbit a shuttle could launch with some kind of disassembled Lander in the bay and transit to the moon, assemble and drop a Lander, recover the crew like the Apollo missions did after the visit and return…
Imagine the size of a space telescope they could mount on the moon…
I know there is no great reason to return to the moon.but why not do it just to make sure the old plaques are clean…For moral..Seems it would be easy to do relative to Apollo….

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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2002, 11:24:54 AM »
I heard on a reputable news source that the whole moon landing was faked...I think it was on FOX..so you know its accurate information.

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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2002, 11:25:21 AM »
There was quite a bit of outcry from the public when we did go to the moon, hell, even "Fly like an Eagle" was anti-Nasa (Steve Miller Band).

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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2002, 11:26:48 AM »
Yeah- who wants to waste money on space exploration anyway.. there's nothing useful out there.........
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2002, 11:28:18 AM »
Isn't China going to attempt a moon landing and perhaps construct a moon-base in 2010?  Someone was talking about it a few days ago... here

I would love to see that happen in the future. :)
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2002, 11:50:12 AM »
Too bad that when the humanity is getting wiped off from the face of this rock, I can't be there saying "told ya so".

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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2002, 12:04:26 PM »
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Imagine the size of a space telescope they could mount on the moon…


 If you get that huge telescope to space, why the heck do you want to mount it on the moon?  Why not just leave it there in space orbit around the Earth?

 It would weight quite a lot on the moon - only 1/6th of what it would weight on Earth but still infinitely more then zero it weights in orbit.
 It would be ten to hundred times further from Earth as far as signal propagation and control are concerned and infinitely more difficult to service.
 Also, unlike a telescope in space, the moon will obscure half of it's view. So you would need at least two telescopes to cover the same area of the sky - you cannot always wait for two weeks while the moon turns around to look at some interesting event.

 miko

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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2002, 12:05:35 PM »
how long before they have a Starbucks on the moon...

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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2002, 12:10:58 PM »
Look at the costs of going to the moon, and related technologies.

Dont get me wrong, I have a huge collection of NASA videos about the early years, moon landings and such.  And while NASA does a good job of getting us there, when it comes to accounting, eeeek  :eek:

A space station that's way over budget and very late, and many parts of its construction are on hold/delay until NASA kinda gets a grip on how to spend money.

I think most of us are in awe when the shuttle goes up and does its thing.  And we all hope for that lofty goal of going into space, exploration etc etc (Trekkies, etc).  But NASA needs to live within its budget (rather generous one at that).  Going over budget by BILLIONS is absurd.

Personally, I'm hoping business endeavors will pursuit those ideas and goals, rather than rely on tax dollars completely.  I'd love to see the space station completed and operating a full crew, as well as a manned mission to Mars.  But the funding isnt there, and when you line up other budget requirements (defense, etc) there are other priorities closer to home.

If anything, while I admire NASA, I'm aggravated they can not police themselves financially...and they always bemoan Congress or the Administration for not giving them more money to spend without accountability.

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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2002, 12:15:11 PM »
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Look at the costs of going to the moon, and related technologies.

Dont get me wrong, I have a huge collection of NASA videos about the early years, moon landings and such.  And while NASA does a good job of getting us there, when it comes to accounting, eeeek  :eek:

A space station that's way over budget and very late, and many parts of its construction are on hold/delay until NASA kinda gets a grip on how to spend money.

I think most of us are in awe when the shuttle goes up and does its thing.  And we all hope for that lofty goal of going into space, exploration etc etc (Trekkies, etc).  But NASA needs to live within its budget (rather generous one at that).  Going over budget by BILLIONS is absurd.

Personally, I'm hoping business endeavors will pursuit those ideas and goals, rather than rely on tax dollars completely.  I'd love to see the space station completed and operating a full crew, as well as a manned mission to Mars.  But the funding isnt there, and when you line up other budget requirements (defense, etc) there are other priorities closer to home.

If anything, while I admire NASA, I'm aggravated they can not police themselves financially...and they always bemoan Congress or the Administration for not giving them more money to spend without accountability.


All just to fulfill one dead presidents dream on landing on the moon.(and one that damn near got us wiped off the face of the earth, good thing he died in office, he woulda been slated as the worse president ever, probably surpassing Clinton)  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2002, 01:01:43 PM »
but Rip, wasn't the Bay of Pigs incident a good thing?  ;)  (major sarcasm there)
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2002, 01:08:12 PM »
Actually, returning to the moon has some merit. We have a few more advancements in engineering to go, and then we'll have to substantially increase NASA's budget.

I can't wait to hear the wacko environmentalists complain about mining operations on the moon, and how it effects life on Earth. The Commie News Network will have a field day.

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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2002, 01:11:23 PM »
why would we want to go to the moon its a lifeless rock. its about as usefull as a giant laser in space

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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2002, 01:14:37 PM »
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why would we want to go to the moon its a lifeless rock. its about as usefull as a giant laser in space


About half of the Moon's surface is covered by the dark lunar mares (latin for seas) or lowlands. Mare basalts are volcanic lavas rich in iron and                          titanium oxide minerals that formed when molten rock from the Moon's interior came to the surface and flowed over large areas.

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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2002, 01:18:28 PM »
oh i have an idea lets build a giant laser orbiting the earth made out of ores from the moon theres an idea...lets set it up so it homes in on arrogance and stupidioty then kills the cause of it all.