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« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2002, 03:19:08 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2002, 03:19:37 PM »
Last post for sure! ;)

I'd say my most respectible pres was Ike.  8 years of keeping those nasty Soviets at bay, he had a big set of brass ones...

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« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2002, 03:21:09 PM »
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He was a brilliant orator, even finished a speech after being shot in the chest




Hhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhmm?...

and how did he finish it??....saying   "help...............me?" :D

Ok ok, I am J/K


Now seriously, what are you talking about?...because I'm clueless :confused:

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« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2002, 03:24:33 PM »
While running as a third party candidate (Bull Moose Party) in 1912 TR was shot in the chest. He just held a handkerchief to the wound, and finished the speech. I believe he spoke for another 30 minutes. (all from memory, I will confirm the facts later)

He lived another 20 years after this attack.

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« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2002, 03:29:58 PM »
The real story:

Milwaukee, Wis., October 14 -- A desperate attempt to kill Col. Theodore Roosevelt tonight failed when a 32 caliber bullet aimed directly at the heart of the former president and fired at short range by the crazed assailant, spent part of its force in a bundle of manuscript containing the address which Co. Roosevelt was to deliver tonight, and wounded the Progressive candidate for President.

Col. Roosevelt delivered part of his scheduled address with the bullet in his body, his blood staining his white vest as he spoke to a huge throng at the auditorium. Later, he collapsed, weakened by the wound, and was rushed to Emergency hospital.

Shot in Front of Hotel

The shooting took place in the street in front of the Hotel Gilpatrick. Col. Roosevelt reached Milwaukee shortly after 5 o'clock and making his way through the crowd which had gathered at the station, entered an automobile and was driven to a private dining room on the main floor with the members of the party on his private car.

After dinner Col. Roosevelt stood up, waving his hat in answer to the cheers of the crowd. The assassin was standing in the crowd a few feet from the automobile. He pushed his way to the side of the car and, raising his gun, fired.

Henry F. Cochems, former athlete and Chairman of the Progressive Party speaker's bureau, and Albert Martin, Roosevelt's stenographer, seized the man and held him until policemen came up. John Schrank, who is small of stature, admitted firing the shot and said that "any man looking for a third term ought to be shot."

Col. Roosevelt barely moved as the shot was fired. Before the crowd knew what had happened, Martin, who is six feet tall and a former football player, had landed squarely on the assassin's shoulders and borne him to the ground. He threw his right arm about the manŐs neck with a death-like grip and with his left arm seized the hand that held the revolver. In another second he had disarmed him.

All this happened within a few seconds and Col. Roosevelt stood gazing rather curiously at the man who attempted his life before the stunned crowd realized what was going on.

Col. Roosevelt refused to allow doctors to examine him at first. Later, doctors made an examination of the wound and announced "Col. Roosevelt is suffering from a superficial flesh wound. Bleeding was insignificant. He soon traveled on to the Auditorium where he was scheduled to give a speech."

Bullet Perforates Manuscript

The manuscript of his speech doubtless had done much to save his life. When he had come upon the platform at the Auditorium he drew the manuscript from his vest pocket during his first few words, the torn sheets of paper, showing many stains blood, showed also that the bullet had gone through the manuscript.

"You see," cried the colonel holding up the manuscript so that the audience could see the bullet hole through the sheets of paper, "It takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose."

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« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2002, 03:31:29 PM »

Wow didn't know that...Great show of will for his part!...

But anyway ,how it was that noone took him off the place for medical attention? (I'm serious, no disrespect intended at all, just very impressed about this)



[edit] ok, your second post clears it.

Yup, the guy was really strong and had lots of will. Impressive, didnt knew that.


Is curious (and sad) to see that today ,if that would've happened, he'd been several miles away in less than 5 minutes after the attempt on his life, even if he'd not wanted it.

Says a lot about how was the world by then, and how is today :(
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« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2002, 03:42:44 PM »
Define "modern times."  Most historians and political scientists view the "modern presidency" as having begun with Franklin Roosevelt.

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« Reply #37 on: June 21, 2002, 05:55:36 PM »
ROFL!!!!! Ripsnort and midnight Target!!!!! LOL!!!
Hey, I would of bet on the Germans too   :)
The US squad did much better in that game than I thought they would.
If we in count 1898 as the start of the 'modern era,' my vote's on Theodore Roosevelt.
Unfortunetly, Reagan is way down on my list.

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« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2002, 05:58:35 PM »
I'm still LOL!!!!

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Hehe, remind me NEVER to bet with Ripsnort!  :)

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« Reply #39 on: June 21, 2002, 08:27:42 PM »
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My real actual no watermelon favorite Pres of all time is Teddy R. He is by far the most interesting of them all, and arguably one of the smartest and most foresighted. He was THE worlds expert on a particular type of fowl (don't remember the genus, I'm sure its in google somewhere). He established our national Park system. He was a brilliant orator, even finished a speech after being shot in the chest. He was as they say "bigger than life".


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Sorry, but you already have Reagan as your pick as the Greatest President Ever. You can't have another pick....until you get to remove it from your signature line  :)

Seriously, how long do you have to 'wear' that line? If Ripsnort had lost, would he have to claim Clinton as his Greatest President Ever choice?  :)

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« Reply #40 on: June 21, 2002, 09:26:55 PM »
1 week, and I hadn't quite decided, but probably something about "Hillary for President" would have been apppropriate.

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« Reply #41 on: June 21, 2002, 10:22:00 PM »
Carter was by far the best pres. of my lifetime.  
He continually gets badmouthed as being weak (not true).
 The only problem with Carter was that he was a decent, morally upstanding, and kind person, and it's been so long since the American public had seen those characteristics in a politician that they where completely unfamiliar with them.
 Most didn't know what to call him. So they call him weak.
He also never seemed to spend his time running down the other guy or responding to their mouth.
He just ignored them and did his job.

Not only do I think he was the best pres. Of my time, but he is the only one I’d ever be interested in knowing as a person.

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« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2002, 11:00:26 PM »
Horseshit.

Kennedy.

The fact most of yer mommys ain't a glowing cinder or you don't have a second evil head is because he refused to push the button. Neither Nixon or Johnson woulda had the balls to NOT take the military options.

Think about it.
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« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2002, 01:55:20 AM »
FDR or Reagan.

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« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2002, 03:53:35 AM »
My vote goes with FDR, though he's hardly the political master many perceive him to have been.  The ill-fated court packing scheme in the mid-1930s comes to mind... that ruined him with Congress until the war broke out.

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