Author Topic: Sunday (Malta) TOD past 1st Fame input (Read 1241 times)

bikekil · « **on:** June 23, 2002, 04:46:12 PM »

At firs i wouls love to thank you for participating in it

Now i would love to hear what do you think needs to be improved. Any sugestions?
What i noticied is that we had few (about 4) more Allies (hmm...) and few (about 10+) Axis less then i expected

And finally please remember to say "Thanks" to Flossy everytime you see her on-line

Thank you Flossy!

Kisters · « **Reply #1 on:** June 23, 2002, 04:58:40 PM »

All
Thanks CMs
What could have been improved? hmm Kill messages.
Everything else seemed to run really smoothly.
Hmm any way to shut down room proximy VOX? got some annoying fellow Axis playing talking there all the time heh.

funkedup · « **Reply #2 on:** June 23, 2002, 05:04:07 PM »

I think LW needed a few more guys, attacking a well defended target which we had no doubt they would strike. I hope they can get more of their squaddies or guests to show up next week.

But it was a hell of a battle. We were the first squadron to hit the Axis strike force and it was quite a sight. Nothing but bandits from 360 to 270.

Busher · « **Reply #3 on:** June 23, 2002, 05:11:32 PM »

I would just like to thank Everyone on both sides.

It was a heck of a fight. I imagine in real life it was quite frightening for the axis forces to attack an island that the allies were so determined to save.

~~Busher~~

Joker312 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 23, 2002, 05:28:23 PM »

Just droppin by to say TY to all involved, this was a fantastic frame.

The Luftwaffe put up a great fight, they just didnt have the required people show up. Its very hard to attack with even numbers, would have liked to see 50vs70+ in favor of the Axis.

Salute all that made this happen.

Joker

Esme · « **Reply #5 on:** June 23, 2002, 06:01:34 PM »

Salute all!

Thanks CM's :-)

First of all I wish to apologise; KG2 got struck by a bad attack of Murphys Law in conjunction with RL (Tm) and so only fielded 2 pilots today. I am fairly confident we'll have 4 next week and might even have 5... :-} I ask if a decision regarding KG2s future in the TOD based on attendance could be deferred until this TOD is over if possible. We will of course respect the CM teams decision whatever.

Personally I find AHV too unreliable to rely on :-} could hardly understand more than the odd word on the tac channel the Ju88s were using so had to rely on the text buffer anyway. If proximity vox is on that won't help.. it WOULD be better for it to be turned off if that's possible.

Regarding side balance... I'd have thought that the numbers would be weighted against the Allies anyway. Rarely were sides equal in numbers or standard of equipment. It's actually fun to try to beat the odds when theyre against you! True if the odds are too overwhelming it can get a bit fraught but short of that I wouldnt worry too much about mere numerical balance.

I mean in a BoB game there should be about equal numbers of German and British single-engined fighters plus about 2-3 LW bombers per LW single engined fighter plus a few Bf110s and (if we had them) Ju87s thrown in. Far from numerically fair but the situation evens the odds. The RAF has better radar and command and control and is fighting over home turf. The LW is playing away and there are soooo many bombers for their fighters to try to protect! Perhaps ditched and bailed RAF pilots get to fly again if they made it back to a friendly field? Plus many of the LW fighters are tied to escort duties.. the RAF probably has a slight advantage overall.

Similarly 1943 over Germany... the LW is outnumbered in all sorts of planes but can still give USAF daylight raids a bloody nose now and then - because it has similar advantages to the RAF during BoB. In fact refighting either BoB or the 1943 situation with equal numbers would be silly IMO.

So.. dont worry about having one side with a numerical superiority CMs. In this game the RAF has the advantage of knowing exactly where the LW targets are - theyre all only a few miles apart!

Esme
CO Kampfgeschwader 2 "Holzhammer"

sling322 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 23, 2002, 06:04:07 PM »

As long as you can average 3 per frame for the whole thing which is three frames, you will be fine.

SELECTOR · « **Reply #7 on:** June 23, 2002, 06:37:56 PM »

it was a great frame..
one thing that always bothers me about TOD is why on earth is the connection to the SEA so amature.. we had poor frame rates and at least 1 of our members was discoed twice...
but apart from that 'twas gooood..
ty floss

funkedup · « **Reply #8 on:** June 23, 2002, 07:30:26 PM »

Frame rate is not a function of the connection. It's a function of your graphics card and CPU.

Dinger · « **Reply #9 on:** June 23, 2002, 07:45:50 PM »

Yes, the Axis probably should have hada few more planes, but I don't think it was terribly outbalanced.
The Axis had an awesome plan of attack. As funked mentioned, the 308th was the unit that made first contact, and we made contact with what seemed like the whole Axis air force. From my perspective, we had about 3 minutes to find the Ju88s. We went left instead of right and got lucky.
Even with all defenders at Malta vectored to intercept the Ju88s, the Axis managed to hit their targets.

Kronos · « **Reply #10 on:** June 23, 2002, 11:48:21 PM »

The only thing I wanted to mention was that there was a report saying that Allied targets that we had hit were coming back up within the time window. I cannot verify this, but if so would like to make sure that in the future, it doesnt happen.

I know CO's don't want to send their guys back in to destroy the same target twice.

Allies was a great fight, I was hoping for a few less planes in the air when we struck, and maybe some squads that got lost.

to the Axis pilots! Extremely difficult logistics involved in that
one, but we managed to get most of our force to target on time,
and you guys & gals did an extremely good job in the wake of the
Allied swarm. Special thanks to Flossy, Bikekil, and the Axis Squad
leaders for having patience with me.

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Even the best laid plans never survive first contact with the enemy
- somebody important once said that.

Esme · « **Reply #11 on:** June 24, 2002, 12:29:48 AM »

Salute Kronos!

The orders and CO'ing were fine m'dear. We maybe could have flown 'em a bit better - but then most of us have little experience of flying together as yet and bomber escort is one of the hardest tasks for fighters. As time goes by we'll gain that experience.

:-)

Esme

Bonden · « **Reply #12 on:** June 24, 2002, 12:45:05 AM »

Was my first TOD and I enjoyed it very much even though I didn't get any kills and was knocked out early on. I stayed around a while to watch how things played out. I will be back again.
Congrats and "Thank You" to all who worked hard to put this together and to all who were involved at any level.

Bonden

Flossy · « **Reply #13 on:** June 24, 2002, 02:02:22 AM »

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Originally posted by Kisters
What could have been improved? hmm Kill messages.

Sorry, that was my fault, I was confused by the setting to have kill messages disabled ON! I was frantically turning them off while gunning a Ju88 under heavy attack! They will definitely be off next time.

[adds another item to the list of things to double-check]

Flossy · « **Reply #14 on:** June 24, 2002, 02:06:06 AM »

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Originally posted by Kronos
The only thing I wanted to mention was that there was a report saying that Allied targets that we had hit were coming back up within the time window.

I don't know why that would be happening, as I had set the downtime to maximum! I did check it again after hearing one report and it was definitely set to maximum.... Sorry, I really don't know the answer to that. I will have someone look over my tables to see if there is anything amiss....