Why AH won't make it, Damnit

[HaHa]

Well either way we'll all find out in a couple weeks. One of two things will happen:

1) Around 20-30 people sign-up, they will see no one is online at all, get really depressed and not sign-up for the next month

2) Around 100-200 people sign-up and things will be great, vehicles will be implemented and I will be sooooo happy    

[Minotaur]

Pasquale;

I am sure HTC is already aware of what they need to do to be profitable.  

Even if you are not that far off, is it really any of your bussiness?

I have a couple more questions for you.

Why do you care?
What did you hope to gain by posting this thread?

By all the flames you have gotten, IMO you kind of come off in somewhat a distasteful way.  

For example, someone is starting a resteraunt bussiness and they invite you for a large dinner to test their food preparation.  After the meal, would you comment to them "You people are going to get very constipated and become very sick from the lack of BM?".

Since they had made a large effort to provide you a nice dinner.  Likely their surprized response to you might be "You are FOS, don't bother worrying if you will ever be invited back here to eat again!", for a free meal or otherwise.

If you were asked after the meal "What did  you think?".  Rudely, you could have made the above comment.  More politely, you could have responded "Your food, just Ain't so Hot".  Then NOT come later to purchase a meal from their bussiness.

At any rate, good luck to you. I am sure that you had good reasons.  

Mino

[dolomite]

Check your score pasquale... I'm sure you're down around 1,500 or so on the "free" sign-up...  

[Kats]

The assumption that HTC has to make money or even thinks they are going to make money in the first few months is wrong. The point is, they have to start charging.

I think this is a good tactic. #1, cash starts coming in, and #2 people have to make a decision.

So, for example, if I'm a AW player - I'm not going to keep both accounts, I'm going to decide on one. What does this mean? Well if my squad starts moving over to AH, more likely than not - the whole squad will get a subsciption. More likely than not, a friend visiting my house and seeing me playing AH and not AW or WB will say "that's a cool game, what is it?"

The point I'm making is that I think that AH finally charging will actually help to get the ball rolling in building the community.

As far as plane sets not being as high as the competition, well judging by the speed they are pumping these planes out, that will be a non issue very soon.

Personally, I can afford to play all of them - but I tell you what, if I was running the $200.00/ month bills that I used to in WB, I would switch instantly to AH - it's just simply better value. The fidelity of the FM's are such that it wouldn't be a deciding factor in choosing either of the simms.

What AH really has to work on to really get ahead of WB is offering historical terrains, terrain editor, and events. I'm sure this isn't a new revelation to them  

[fudpucker]

pasquale i think yer bellybutton sucks buttermilk,take yer figures an put em where the sun dont shine.what are you,a banker?LOOK at who is developin this sim.have you ever seen warbirds,who the hell you think werked there the tooth fairy.what if,everyone flyin here was to tell 3 other people about AH,do ya think maybe a little advertisin mite help them?what a concept

[HaHa]

 

Originally posted by fudpucker:
pasquale i think yer bellybutton sucks buttermilk,take yer figures an put em where the sun dont shine.what are you,a banker?LOOK at who is developin this sim.have you ever seen warbirds,who the hell you think werked there the tooth fairy.what if,everyone flyin here was to tell 3 other people about AH,do ya think maybe a little advertisin mite help them?what a concept

Interesting first post.. obviously you're hiding behind this "fake" nick whoever you are. Confirms my suspicions that all flamers are really quite immature.

[dracon]

Yep, agree!  Seems like fudpucker is 15 and still growing!
Here's a scenario for ya!  What if HTC is more interested in selling the game to a gaming site, like IEN selling FO (Fighter Ops) to AOL?  Nothing wrong with that now is there?  Business is Business, they say.
Guess will know in a month or so just how it all goes.  Speculation is the Spice of life!
Dracon

[-floo-]

As for myself I'm with the 'wait-and-see' group. I really like this sim a lot and I've had a lot of great times in the free beta...but the fact that BOTH my Warbirds squads show absolutely NO sign of switching over greatly affects my decision to stay with Warbirds.

The other thing that is holding me back is the fact that WW2O is coming soon and thats something I'm very excited about.

In the meantime I will be watching the progress of this sim very closely...but I want to hold back until I can finally decide where my 30 bucks a month will go

Please don't hate me for not joining you guys now  

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[Minotaur]

LOL

Funny thing is, I know right where Drewsey, Oregon is....

Mino

[BBGunn]

I think you guys should do what Frence farmers do when they get in an argument-They throw sheep at each other!   Anyway I would prefer to support AH because its put together by a small company and not a megacorporation.   Business always has some risks and I think the HTC people realize that.   It might be better to spread the word about AH as something for gamers to give a try than to use your energy in endless speculation.   If you get frustrated- then throw some sheep!

[Flacke]

Minotaur!  501 Posts????? What-the! , wait, I figured it out, you're in jail and all you have is a computer and a lot of spare time!     Just kidding , glad to see how interested you are in flight-simming.

[Flacke]

Minotaur!  501 Posts????? What-the! , wait, I figured it out, you're in jail and all you have is a computer and a lot of spare time!     Just kidding , glad to see how interested you are in flight-simming.

[Sharky]

Interesting Thread,

I think a lot of this is caused by fear.  If people switch to AH and it tanks in a few months, then where do they go?  Back to AW?  Na can't go back to the farm once you've seen Paris.  Back to WB?  Can ya imagine the s#$t you would get from the rest of the WB community?

Personnelly I'm going to sign up for AH when the time comes, I like what the AH team has done and what I think they are capable of.  Additionally I am getting kind of disillusioned with iEN and the direction of that company.  I really feel that WB is being slowly abandoned by all but a few at iEN and the ones still with us don't make the decisions.

So do I say good-bye to the community over at WB and stick strickly with AH?  I don't think I can bounce between the two, especially the communities, let alone the FMs.  

I'm concerned too about AH.  Although I really like what they have done so far, what is going to be done that is going to be differant?  What we have now is esentally WBII, (btw HT and company, thats a compliment, you should be proud of that sim) and without Mac support were is the player base going to come from?  Can AH draw enough of the AW $9.95/month crowd to make this viable?  Without something really differant how can AH hope to lure the WB crowd? (although iEN is helping some in that department)

So as you can see I think some of this bashing is fear of hitching the wagon to a falling star.  Is AH going to be succesful?  I don't know, I certainly hope so.  Is what we see no going to be what the game will ultimately center around?  I don't know, I'd like to see HT and company really do something to shake up the Flight Sim community and make em go "Wow look at that!"
But even if it just mirrors WB, I think it has enough better features to keep me interested.

Sharky

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[Extreme]

SHARKY:
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I think a lot of this is caused by fear. If people switch to AH and it tanks in a few months, then where do they go? Back to AW? Na can't go back to the farm once you've seen Paris. Back to WB? Can ya imagine the s#$t you would get from the rest of the WB community?
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You know what's great about the internet?  You can be whoever you want, wherever you want.  ...Thing is, if AH or WB folds and you don't want s$%t for it when you switch, it's as simple as changing your call sign...

As for the topic at hand, I hope HTC do make it.  I have a lot of respect for guys like HT and Pyro, not to mention the great work done by the Art guys.

<push, shove, kick...excuse let me out please...scuse me..that the way outa this thread?..right..k..tks..>  

Ex.

[Swager]

My position is......

Naaaa!

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