Poll: Half Willing To Suspend Freedoms

[Apache]

Just curious, but was the poll specific about which basic freedoms they were willing to curtail?

[Fatty]

If you wanted to make it an exceptionally alarming poll, just ask people if they want the xray machines in airports removed.  If they say no, count them among those willing to curtail their rights.

[Apache]

Originally posted by Fatty
If you wanted to make it an exceptionally alarming poll, just ask people if they want the xray machines in airports removed.  If they say no, count them among those willing to curtail their rights.

Why? What expectation of privacy do you have in an airport?

[Udie]

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
That whole less government/more government democrat/republican argument hasn't been accurate for years.

It's just dogma that Limbaugh continues to rant.

 Gotta agree here.  The way I see it is that the Dems want one part of the governement to be big and the Reps want the other part to be big.

 Eagler,

 A lot of people died to give us those freedoms.  They should not be given back, period.  If I get killed in a terrorist attack so be it, at least the next generation will be free.   What ever happened to the old saying those who would give up freedom for security deserve neither?  Give me liberty or give me death?

 We give up ANY freedom and the terrorist have won.  I don't care if we lose cities in this war, it's a freaking war for god's sake people are going to die.  When this thing is over, these freedoms won't be given back by the government power doesn't flow in that direction.  They will take our freedoms and then somebody else's kids in the future will have to sacrifice their lives because we were to weak to fight for our rights now.  Or worse, they won't have the knowledge or will to fight for liberty.    I am not willing to give up ANY civil/constiutional rights.  I am willing to fight for it too......

[Fatty]

Those are public buildings, why should I be searched just for walking in?  Sure it's a small thing but it's the tiny steps that eat away civil liberties.

[Eagler]

Give me liberty or give me death?



WHAT FREEDOMS???

The "freedom" to carry a box cutter onto an airliner?
The "freedom" to joke you have a bomb in a public place?
The "freedom" not to have your face scanned and compared to a database of crooks & terrorists?

Please tell me a half of dozen specific "freedoms" you have lost or will lose if the admin does whatever to protect its citizens...

Why are the hippies & minorities the first ones to jump up and down about their "freedoms"?

[weazel]

"A lot of people died to give us those freedoms. They should not be given back, period. If I get killed in a terrorist attack so be it, at least the next generation will be free. What ever happened to the old saying those who would give up freedom for security deserve neither? Give me liberty or give me death?

We give up ANY freedom and the terrorist have won. I don't care if we lose cities in this war, it's a freaking war for god's sake people are going to die. When this thing is over, these freedoms won't be given back by the government power doesn't flow in that direction. They will take our freedoms and then somebody else's kids in the future will have to sacrifice their lives because we were to weak to fight for our rights now. Or worse, they won't have the knowledge or will to fight for liberty. I am not willing to give up ANY civil/constiutional rights. I am willing to fight for it too......"

[Apache]

No one has yet to answer Eaglers question. What rights are you talking about?

[KG45]

>>Living under the continuing threat of terrorism that might prove worse than last September's attacks,<<

what proof is there of this statement?

oh, thats right, 'they' can't tell us. might comprimise security.

well, 'they' could tell us, but then 'they' would have to kill us.

but since we gonna die anyway..wtf?

[weazel]

Originally posted by Apache
No one has yet to answer Eaglers question. What rights are you talking about?

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time
with the blood of patriots and tyrants"

Thomas Jefferson

It's about that time......

[Udie]

Originally posted by weazel


"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time
with the blood of patriots and tyrants"

Thomas Jefferson

It's about that time......

 aint it funny who the fight for liberty will bring together  That's one of my favorite if not my favorit quotes from our founding fathers, though it scares the crap out of me.....



 but Im still pissed more at the democrats than the republicans so sorry weazel  but everyday I see something else that makes me shake my head and lose faith in the whole system....

[midnight Target]

Why are the hippies & minorities the first ones to jump up and down about their "freedoms"?

Maybe because the minorities know what it's like to lose them?

But don't you worry Eagler. You will probably be one of the last to lose them, so it should have no affect on your life at all. And isn't that whats really important here?

[Apache]

What do you guys thinkThomas Jefferson was saying?

[midnight Target]

This type of thing is happening more and more often.

Novel Security Measures
A local man was kept off a recent flight because of a book he was carrying.

Careful what you read!

[Fatty]

That doesn't really relate to the original survey MT, unless you're saying any passenger scrutiny at all should go.  If you're not, then you're part of that half, you just draw the line at a different point than some others (though reading the article it seems the main factor contributing was simply ineptitude on the part of the screeners).