The high cost of flying high with Aces High

[mburns]

Greetings,
At he recommendation of squad mates in DoA I downloaded AH and gave it a good try yesterday (Sun 11/7). I had a great deal of fun in the P-51 and was able to hold my own pretty well. I thought to myself that I could really get into this so after playing for a few hours I headed back to the website for more information. I found the monthly fee for when this sim goes pay to play and my heart sank. I can not afford to spend, or justify spending, $29.95 even for unlimited play. I just can't afford that sort of cash. For a year's play it would cost me $359.40!!  Sorry Hitech Creations. You got what looks to be a great sim in the works, but with the other expenses of life that sort of money is just way to much.  Now $14.94 a month unlimited play I could afford and justify and that's as high as I can resonably pay.  I don't think it's fair of me to play in the free beta when I won't be playing when it goes pay so I should probably uninstall your sim tonight 8-(
Most regretably,
mburns

[-kier-]

Don't be too hasty, Monty. First of all, the price isn't necessarily in concrete. Secondly, even if $30 is too much, they need players to load test the server. Finally, the beta won't end for some time yet, and your situation might change.

I for one know you are a quality player, one that any sim would be fortunate to include in its ranks. Give it some more time.

BTW, you had the misfortune to find ByTor in his Nikki last night... he is pretty hot!

[Dinger]

Yeah, they need help debugging it.  I say stay in there, and burn out on the game just as it goes pay, then hop to the next free beta on the market.
Remember too, it's $29.95 before the price wars begin.  
OTOH, if all those AH beta testers uninstalled AH and played DoA instead, we might have a nice arena after all.

Ok, all you future freeloaders, OUT of AH right now! Start shelling out $10/month to fly Brand W's WWI simulator!

[Razorback]

The price IS set in stone.  Stop talking about a different price plan, this is IT.

I will spend that money happily.  My WB bill was sometimes in the hundreds of dollars, and I think AH is far better.

RB

[-kier-]

Razorback-

Simple logic; no comment on the future is fact until it becomes the past. I'm not looking to open an argument on price structure, but business models do change over time.  

What you or I spend is immaterial to the argument; Monty is expressing his concern, and I'm trying to keep a friend around. Let's not turn this into a "wealthy vs. freeloader" thread (done ad nauseum elsewhere).

[mburns]

Thanks for the nice compliments -kier-. I would love to stay around when it goes pay, but unless I get a nice pay raise, hit the lottery, or the price goes lower I don't see that happening.  You are right though in saying that my situation may change and indeed the future is always in motion. I am not a freeloader and I have no problem in paying for a quality product, but the price has to be within a range that my budget can afford. If I cut out most of the other forms of entertainment that I pay for I could possibly afford AH, but I would have to sacrifice to many other fun things.  I also do prefer WWI aviation over WWII (but just slightly) and although DoA isn't perfect it is inexpensive, affordable and fun, and I have been flying it since it started with version 0.99.  After reading the replies to my initial post I may stay around for a bit and see what happens. The least I can do since it is free is to let the folks at Hitech Creations know what bugs I encounter and to make suggestions on the interface. Then at least I won't feel like a freeloader.  

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Col. mburns
XO and Ops Officer
94th Aero Pursuit Sqdrn
1st Pursuit Group

[blur]

Maybe if we're persistent enough we can get a "Dawn of Aces High" WW1 arena.  

[Zephler]

   Not trying to be whiny about the whole price deal, but I pay $19.95 a month for internet services. I have a few other online games, none of which has a monthly price that exceeds $10 a month. I just can't justify paying a monthly rate for a game that exceeds the rate i pay to just get on the internet. But if the price were to be $29.95 a month i would probably pay anyways because AH is a VERY schweet game!

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Zephler

[Werewolf]

Guys what are you whining about? I am living in Germany and if I want to play online i have to pay an average of 70 cents / hour telephone fee + 15$ ISP + 30$ (in future) +  access fee + 25$ basic fee for my ISDN.
Approximately I pay 175$ / month for my online fun (including researches and brand W). You are lucky living in U.S. and having nearly no local phone costs and 30$ are about 1-3 hours extra work you have to do.
Shouldn't be a problem even if you are still attending school. (I did the same 12 years ago and had a lot more free money than nowadays when I have to pay everything myself)

Werewo
JG 301 "Heimatverteidigung"

[Werewolf]

Guys what are you whining about? I am living in Germany and if I want to play online i have to pay an average of 70 cents / hour telephone fee + 15$ ISP + 30$ (in future) +  access fee + 25$ basic fee for my ISDN.
Approximately I pay 175$ / month for my online fun (including researches and brand W). You are lucky living in U.S. and having nearly no local phone costs and 30$ are about 1-3 hours extra work you have to do.
Shouldn't be a problem even if you are still attending school. (I did the same 12 years ago and had a lot more free money than nowadays when I have to pay everything myself)

Werewo
JG 301 "Heimatverteidigung"

[dawg]

$29.95/mo. is less than 2 sodas a day out of the pop machine.

[mburns]

No offence werewolf, but you do not know what my personal situation is, nor do you actually know where I live (irrelevant) or what I pay for ISP access, or what my other monthly expenses are.  You are making your own sacrifices and justifications just as I have to make my own based SOLEY on my personal situation. Maybe you have much more in the way of disposabel income than I do or not as many other expenses. I already work a long number of hours and working more is out of the question. I already put in 55+ hours a week for work. If I work more hours to make more money then I don't have the time available to spend that money playing online games.

In all truth lets just sufice it to say that each of us has their own PERSONAL situation and money is an object. I simply can not afford, nor can I justify, 29.95 a month for an online game.  TOO EXPENSIVE.

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Col. mburns
XO and Ops Officer
94th Aero Pursuit Sqdrn
1st Pursuit Group

[mburns]

I don't buy sodas from the pop machine. I buy 12 or 24 packs on sale to help save money so that my sodas only cost me 25-30 cents each instead of 50-75 or $1 each.  I also bring a lunch to work as food around where I work would cost a minimum of $6.00 a day for lunch.


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Col. mburns
XO and Ops Officer
94th Aero Pursuit Sqdrn
1st Pursuit Group

[Flathat]

Just make Smithers sell one of his kidneys...   (sorry, monty, couldn't resist).

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Flathat
'Black Dahlia'
No10 RNAS "The Black Flight"
Angel on your wing, devil on your tail

[Werewolf]

Really meant no offense, but compare it to brand W where you have to pay for each hour after you consumed your included flying time.
(29,95$=20 hours, after that 1,50$ each hour)
And the guys developing and running AH surely put a lot of work in it (guess at last more than 60 hours a week now) and they need to earn money too. 100 registered users will only make up around 3000 bucks a month.
30$ still sound fair to me.

Werewo