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Offline 28sweep

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« on: July 22, 2002, 12:55:45 PM »
I got a GeForce2 Mx and I can no longer play AH w/my PIII900.  I want to upgrade and buy a GeForce4 MX but I have been told that the Mx video cards are garbage.  Any experts out there and what does Mx actually mean????
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Offline AKSWulfe

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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2002, 01:00:28 PM »
MX roughly means stripped down version.

Imagine a Honda Civic. They got DX for base model, EX, LX, etc... mean they get added neat features.

Now imagine a GF4 Ti4200 as the base model. The Ti4400(or whatever) is the souped up model. The MX would be like putting bald tires, an engine with 2 less cylinders, no power brakes, no power steering, but you do got power windows and a CD player!
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Offline easymo

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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2002, 01:06:13 PM »
I have a GF4 MX.  It works fine.
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Offline Sox62

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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2002, 01:07:45 PM »
The MX line also doesn't take advantage of some of the Direct X 8.1 features.

Go with the Ti line. :)
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Re: The scoop on MX video cards?
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2002, 01:49:08 PM »
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Originally posted by 28sweep
I got a GeForce2 Mx and I can no longer play AH w/my PIII900.  I want to upgrade and buy a GeForce4 MX but I have been told that the Mx video cards are garbage.  Any experts out there and what does Mx actually mean????



To start, the GeForce 4 MX line does not use the same chipset you find in the normal GeForce 4 Ti cards.  The MX versions use an older chipset than the normal GeForce 4 Ti cards, think they use the NV17 while the G4 Ti cards use the NV20 chipset.  You'd be better off spending the extra $$$ on a G4 Ti or if your strapped for $$$ then maybe looking at one of the G3 Ti cards.  I was able to pick up a G3 Ti200 128meg card for only $120 through PriceWatch.

Another reason to stay away from the G4 MX cards is that it doesn't support the full features of DirectX 8.x.  


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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2002, 01:51:24 PM »
I have a GeForce 2 MX 400 in my wife's machine. Good frame rates, very playable, at 800x600 32bit.
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2002, 02:03:56 PM »
you should have no problem with a mx400...I'm curious what your frame rates are with the 200. Anything over about 30 fps isn't really needed. A PIII 900 should be able to do that even with a 200. I was running an older card on a PIII 800 and getting about 55fps. Even when it "bogged down" JABOing I'd usually be 35 or so. I'm not a "techie" but I'd hope someone can help you trouble shoot. I'd start by looking at your drivers and memory.
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2002, 02:13:43 PM »
My framerates drop to single digits when furballing.....like 8 or so.  BTW, I got 128 meg of ram too.  Ok, I want to buy a Geforce4 Ti from Pricewatch.com but I don't know if I can trust some of those web sites.  Any good sites out there that are good priced and trust worthy???????
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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2002, 02:17:14 PM »
Gf4MX (NV17) is using old, modified Gf2 core while Gf4Ti series are using new, "Real" Gf4 core NV25.
Gf4Ti4200 has about same price than some MX cards and it sure is better card.
I just played Il-2 with 1600*1200 resolution with 32bit colors and full details with 1,4GHz AMD TB and I couldn't see any framerate drops :)

FW-190 cockpit in 1600*1200 etc... 200kB

Check also this thread
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2002, 02:17:26 PM »
If you've only got 128Mb of RAM, then you're operating on the bare minimum required to run Windows.  I'd suggest you look into adding more memory while you're upgrading the video card, since you'll have the case off anyway.
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2002, 02:25:42 PM »
The geforce4 MX is really just a beefed up geforce2.  It's a working card, but it's not a gf4.
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2002, 03:00:44 PM »
Go with a GeForce4 Ti4200.  That's you're best bang per buck card right now.

And get at least another 128mb of RAM.
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2002, 03:48:33 PM »
its all about $$ sweep.

Do you play anything else besides AH?

I do, and woops I use a gf4 mx on an XP1900+,  It runs everything i play problem free, offering 100+ fps in AH, and even permits me to run details to the max in games like SOF2 and MOHAA.

On a system like yours.. I wouldn't bother going any more than a GF3 Ti200 or GF4 Ti4200. and if $$ were a concern I'd go for a gf4mx until such time as you upgrade the whole system, which it looks like you will be due for in the not too distant future.

128mb of ram is the minimum these days.  Hell even 256 is becoming borderline


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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2002, 04:28:52 PM »
you should not buy GF4 TI ...why ?

ATI just released its newest videocard and its about twice as fast as the fastest GF4 card, has way better price/quality value (advice price is about $400) and is couple years ahead of its time.

read the test here

some people might say that ati sux becouse of its drivers but thats not true, it was only the case with some older models of ati cards....8500 models work with no problems .

but first upgrade your ram 128Mb is not enough for games nowdays :D
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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2002, 04:41:28 PM »
ok heres one for you ......


if you had a GF2MX and wanted a significant boost in fps what would you buy

A GF4 MX or a GF3/2Ti card for around the same cost?

do you go with new but stripped down or older but now cheaper top of the line(only few months ago) versions?

Im leaning toward buying a GF4 MX version rather than older Ti versions...am i wrong to do that?

btw also i have 900Mhz Athlon TB
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