Nah thats complete different to what Yeagers doing.
What I did was induce a high-speed-stal/spin. In the tiffie if u flick a little rudder and a little vator at speed the thing flicks into a stall -> then spin real fast. Its something I rarely do, like when a 190 is right up my arse and I've got nowhere to go.
For a least a few seconds you will have a clear easy shot of me. Then I also end up blowing 5k in alt and speed.
I believe some aircraft in AH can recover rather fast from such moves (ie spit, hawg, and niki). Tiffie certainly doesn't, its a once only and with alt to spare type move.
Now what Yeager was talking about was the high 190 roll rate coupled with porposing vs net lag.
Usually when I see it I blow thru, the guy ends up low and slow pretty quick. Once the 190 is slow they can't do that toejam.
p.s. zig sometimes I spin out like that by accident - can't remember if it was on purpose or not so don't get ur knickers in a twist.
Originally posted by Zigrat:
the other day vulcan did that gay bellybutton flip stuff in a tiffie
basically, all u gotta do is stall the plane to flip flop anyplane
this of course bleeds off alot of e tho
personally what i hate most is the bastards using -3g manouvers. irl thatd give u a hemmorage. id like to see stronger consequences for negative g.