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Offline beet1e

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« on: August 20, 2002, 07:38:13 AM »
A few months ago I pointed out that my CPU was running at 57°C. Mr Ripley said I was risking early burnout. The weather has been very warm in the past 2 weeks, and now my computer room is 27°+ instead of its more usual 22°. And my CPU is feeling it! Now it's running at 67°. But still it doesn't seem to complain. Like an Energiser battery, it keeps on going and going and going...

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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2002, 01:10:46 PM »
Just cuz its running fine doesn't mean it isn't doing any damage....

The higher the temp the shorter the lifespan of the cpu.  Though for the gamer its rarely an issue with yearly upgrades +)

I'd say you are pushing your luck


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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2002, 01:25:07 PM »
beetle,
You have a 20 deg rise from MB to CPU temp which isn't so bad if you are using stock cpu cooler.  What seems to be bad is the airflow in your case with a 21 deg rise from room to MB temp.  My room is usually around 30 deg and MB never above 37 deg.  My rise under load then brings CPU to 52 deg.  I think mine is a little high but I prefer my ocean breeze to air conditioning.  I could use a high rpm fan on the AX7 but prefer the quiet 2900 one I use.  As Skurj said, I am sure mine with last till upgrade time.  Your upgrade time may be coming sooner than you like.
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2002, 01:26:50 PM »
Also it should be noted that Asus probes are known to be pessimistic --> showing higher than real temperature values.

I wouldn't run my CPU that hot for sure :) False reading or not.

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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2002, 02:06:02 PM »
OK, points taken. But what can I do about it? I've got the cooler that was recommended for the Athlon 1.2GHz. It is NOT overclocked. I followed the AMD recommendation to include a slot fan in the case.

Is there something else I can do?

I'm taking a backup of my hard drive tonight :)

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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2002, 05:42:20 PM »
Adding case fans...

Or replacing the case.  I bought an Antec, which has 4 fans 2 for in 2 for exhaust, plus the HS.  Big roomy case too.  I am in the basement so case temp isn't an issue for me.  With an XP 1800+ running around 47 max under load with a case that rarely touches 30 deg

Point to note..  I dunno how accurate the temp sensor is on an MSI board Turbo K7T

Oh yeah thats stock fan and HS that came with cpu.  After breaking mobo removing a globalwin cooler at upgrade time, i am reluctant to put it back on


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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2002, 08:18:19 PM »
Do something before it gets any hotter.  You are risking damage to the CPU if it were to get any warmer.

I personally am worried the heatsink clip is weak and there is not enough pressure between the heatsink and CPU die.  If it were me I would buy a new heatsink and remount it.  That is risky if you used the thermal pad on the heatsink rather than heatsink paste.  The pad will adhere to the die, which makes removal of the heatsink potentially harmful to the CPU die.  Regardless, that temperature is too hot IMO and the fact that your CPU is hotter now than in the past is not good.

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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2002, 04:49:14 AM »
I'll see about getting a new CPU fan, bearing in mind the caveats mentioned in Bloom25's post. What I still don't understand is why the threshold is set so high in the Probe utility program. According to that, the CPU temp is well within limits. :confused: :confused: :confused:
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2002, 03:26:38 PM »
I've had the PC open, and the problem seems to be with the fan identified by number 2 in this diagram, and not the CPU cooler that I suspected. The small fan had stopped completely. I cleaned it up as best I could with a small brush, and it's working - intermittently.   I might just decide to upgrade - A7V333 would be my mobo, with one of the new Athlons. What's the difference between the "normal" Athlons and the multi-processor Athlons - apart from the price?

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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2002, 03:35:34 PM »
I ran a celeron 300a overclocked to 450MHz for three years at that temperature.

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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2002, 03:39:38 PM »
Well, 300A was 300A and that's that.. :)

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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2002, 05:29:12 PM »
i ran a celeron 266 @ 450 for 2 yrs or so at temps much lower than that..., (its still running to this day but at stock speed)



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3 months later...
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2002, 08:09:13 AM »
CPU still running - at 59°.

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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2002, 08:14:24 AM »
Beetle I am using  ASUSA7V333 with an athlon XP2400 with a Thermaltake Volcano7 .  Have not seen it run above 51, and I have 1 case fan (a large one) and an internal fan on power supply.  Methinks investing in another heatsink and fan combo might be the answer here
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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2002, 11:14:45 AM »
Hajo - rgr, that A7V333 is a great board - my girlfriend has that board. I was going to rip the cooler off and replace it, but I'd need to take the whole thing apart to get at the fan clips. I'm tempted to wait until I need to upgrade.

BTW my cleaning lady brought me her PC to repair - thought the monitor had blown, but the fan clips had popped so that the cooler was not retained - only takes about 5 secs for the processor to burn out. :(