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Offline leonid

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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2000, 12:40:00 AM »
Life is something, isn't it?  From birth to death, regardless of age, we are all so precious.  It truly amazes me.  Birth, death, Life.  I bow to your grandmother, hblair.  What a teacher she is!  You are so very fortunate  
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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2000, 03:36:00 AM »
Oh well it IS a tearjerker ... God Sped to your Grandma, you and your family !

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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2000, 05:03:00 AM »
<S> Your grandma for me.  

My prayers are with you and your kin.

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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2000, 05:56:00 AM »
I thank you for sharing.
Your grandmother is a great teacher.

Teapot.


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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2000, 07:14:00 AM »
My prayers are with you & your family hblair. Your Grandmother is prepared, just as my Grandmother was last year, to win the greatest of ALL VICTORIES!

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« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2000, 07:46:00 AM »
Reminds me of me grandmother who passed away many years ago. Five feet tall and ninety pounds, she would stand up to anybody, absolutely fearless.

"What we therefore call our Self is not the body, which is born, grows and dies, which is made of innumerable non-homogeneous parts which do not think, do not seek, do not perceive and do not understand. We are the intelligent indivisible unit 'I' - life itself, -which pervades and uses the body, which sees but cannot be seen, hears but cannot be heard, smells but cannot be smelt, knows but cannot be known; for it is always a subject, never an object. And because we cannot see, hear or smell our 'I', we mistake it for the body which can be seen, heard and smelt.

Thus the knower, or dreamer, is alone real; the known is sheer dream."

        Sri Ramana Maharshi


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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2000, 08:40:00 AM »
Hblair:

Courage comes in many forms, and the warrior in infinite guises.  My deepest respects to your grandmother and your family.  Our prayers go with you.  God bless.

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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2000, 09:23:00 AM »
I feel for you and your family and wish that there was something I could do to ease your pain.

It could never or should never be considered a "boohoo tearjerker" thread when you talk about friends or family that are ill.

I hope that you and everyone that is a part of this community understands that we are here anytime you need us.
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« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2000, 10:58:00 AM »
hblair,

Thank you for finding the courage to share this part of your life with us.  Whether we like it or not, life and death are inexorably connected.  You can't have one without the other.  I greatly admire and envy people like your grandmother who can find such dignity and grace even in the face of death.  That is true courage.  But, there is also courage in witnessing a death and being a part of it as a supporter and a survivor.  You are there and are finding this out first-hand and I salute you.

My grandmother died when I was about 13.  She had had a horrible life, but she had wonderful support.  My last images of here are described in a poem I wrote for her and for her caretaker, my grandfather.  I hope it brings you some closure.

The Caretaker

She was sick.
  He was tired.
She was confined to her bed, or to a wheelchair.
  He was confined to her side.
He called her "Gussie".
  She called him an old fool,
    when whe was tired,
    or in too much pain.
Such was the life of the caretaker.

Years of illness had gnarled her body.
Bed-ridden years of wheelchairs and pain
  had turned her life into a living hell,
    leaving only the agonized shell
    of the woman she had been.
I had touched her heart once,
  and made her smile.
    But that was years ago.

But he was there through it all.
  Ever patient,
    ever caring,
      ever loving.
He was there for her.
  With bedpans, clean sheets, a feeding tray,
  and a loving hand.
He was there for us, too.
  With Uncle Remus stories
    and a cold sixteen-ounce Coca Cola
    on a hot summer's day.
The house was a mess,
  but he had his hands full.
    Still, he was always there.

I never heard him complain.
  Not even once.
But I was young
  and I saw him through a grandchild's eyes.
    Loving.
      Respecting.
        Admiring.
He must have been dying inside,
  but I couldn't tell it.
I never saw him shed a single tear,
  until the night she died.

Then, for her, a lifetime
  full of pain and suffering
    was finally over.
For him, a lifetime commitment,
  to love, honor, cherish, and obey,
    in sickness and in health,
      was fulfilled.
Karmic debts were paid,
  in full.
And with her hand in his
  and his head pressed against her frail, lifeless body,
    he said, "I love you, Gussie,"
      and shed a lifetime of tears.


Walt Barrow, © March 1989

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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2000, 11:29:00 AM »
Wow! I tell ya what, you guys are some class acts. Too many great things said to reply to all of 'em.

The shortest, from easymo, says it all "Class never grows old".

I appreciate all you fellas.

On a lighter note, I look forward to killin' you in the arena.  

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« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2000, 05:18:00 PM »
She expired this morning around 3:30.

I was able to carry on a few conversations with her over the weekend that I won't forget.

Thank God for grandparents...

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« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2000, 11:58:00 PM »
You were lucky.
All my grandparents died by the time i was 20.

My grandfather was dying for something like 2 years. All his mussles deteriorated and after 2 years there was nothing but skin and bones.
He couldn't get up, lost all his teeth. He was too weak to speak, just laid there....

The day he passed away, i was happy. It was the end of suffering. It was his time. Man served in two world wars, just to die helplessly of old age....

There is no way in hell i'll ever go like that. Once i know gig is up, i'm renting a plane and going 14G turns....

My prayers are with you and your grandma hblair.


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« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2000, 11:58:00 PM »
As you have seen you and her have been and are in our thoughts and prayers.

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« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2000, 10:24:00 AM »
god bless her and you man dont have any better words for ya, but wish i did.

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« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2000, 02:58:00 PM »
My condolences hblair.