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Offline Mathman

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« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2002, 07:25:50 PM »
The First Team and The First Team at Guadalcanal by John B. Lundstrom.  These two books cover about the first year of the war in the Pacific and deal almost exclusively with fighter operations and the tactics developed by guys such as "Jimmy" Thach and Jimmy Flatley.  Very fascinating and highly recommended if you have any interest in the PTO.

Victory Roll: The American fighter pilot and aircraft in World War II by William Wolf.  Absolutely one of the best books on US fighter pilots that I have found.  It covers all the services, and lists US aces by service, aircraft type, theater etc.  Just an incredible amount of information and trivia.  This book is to the fighter pilots what America's Hundred Thousand was to their aircraft (well, at least IMO)

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« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2002, 12:00:10 PM »
I enjoyed Donald Burgett's books:

Currahee!: a Screaming Eagle at Normandy

The Road to Arnhem: A Screaming Eagle in Holland

Seven Roads to Hell

Beyond the Rhine: A Screaming Eagle in Germany


They were all good, but Currahee was the best.

Burgett's work seemed to match the events in Band of Brothers, which is not surprising since he was in the same regiment.

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« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2002, 12:18:28 PM »
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Undoubtedly - he's the king.

I'm reading 'The Fall of Berlin 1945' right now - and it also kicks serious ass.  The guy can write.


Hmmm...next trip on a plane I'll pick that up.

One thing that struck me about "Stalingrad" that I didn't know before, was Nikita Kruschev's (sp?) role in that battle.  When the film "Enemy at the Gates" was reviewed by some know-it-alls on the WW2Online's BB I remember some guy claiming that the scene in which Kruschev berated all the Commissars and got the general to shoot himself was BS and that the former head of the Soviet Union was not even at Stalingrad.

Fact is, he was the third highest ranking officer to be at Stalingrad and after reading that book it appears that the scene in the film was probably repeated numerous times in reality.
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« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2002, 03:24:42 PM »
Company Commander
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The Battle of the Hürtgenwald.

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« Reply #34 on: September 06, 2002, 03:33:07 PM »
Company Commander was good.

Have you tried to read his (Charles B. MacDonald) 'A Time For Trumpets' about the Battle of the Bulge?  Damn that was a brutal read... don't know why - a lot of of it was really interesting and engaging, but I slogged my way through that one.  Partially, I think it was the poor maps included that made locations confusing.  I'm glad I've read it, but I don't think I'll read it again. :)

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« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2002, 03:50:04 PM »
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Company Commander was good.

Have you tried to read his (Charles B. MacDonald) 'A Time For Trumpets'  


3 times:) and you are right, a tough read.  I think because it's written more as a study, text book.  It's my "Travel Guide" when I go to Belgium.  I go about 3-4 times a year.

Have you read his book "The Siegfied Line Campaign" ?

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« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2002, 03:56:23 PM »
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With the Old Breed  by E. B. Sledge.  It's a first hand account of the marine invasions and subsequent campaigns at Peleliu and Okinawa.  (The author was a mortarman with the 1st Marine Division.)


I agree. His words created images that are forever burned into my mind. To understand what the Pacific Theater was about, island to island, this is a must read. ( IMO )

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« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2002, 04:14:12 PM »
The best non fiction book I have ever read about war was

GUNS UP!
By Johhnie M Clark.

It was fantastic. You felt like you where there with him.

About a Marine M60 gunner in Vietnam.

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« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2002, 04:39:17 PM »
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Have you read his book "The Siegfied Line Campaign" ?


Nope.


But before I started Beevor's new book, I read 'In Deadly Combat' by Gottlob Herman Bidderman (I think that's how it goes), about his experience on the Eastern front.  Not as good as 'the Forgotton Soldier', but good...  also would've benefited enormously from better maps (it only had one, that showed all of the eastern front :))

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« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2002, 05:23:14 PM »
Battle:  the Story of the Bulge is a good read.

I particularly like this passage;


Task Force Jones was also probing for an escape to the west.  The column hurried blindly down a dirt road which soon dwindled to a cow trail leading into the Salm River.  Half a dozen tanks and trucks trying to cross became mired.  The rest of the column turned north and, after a few miles, came to a ford.  The column crossed the Salm and headed west.  Half an hour later it entered the darkened village of Provedroux.

The commander of the lead Sherman tank, noticing parked vehicles on the main street, ordered a halt.  Then he saw they were German.  He shouted, "Fire!"

The town was soon in chaos as Americans and Germans milled around confusedly.  An American half-track burst into flames.  The men tumbled out, looking for cover.  One was Sergeant John Banister of the 14th Cavalry Group but the past two days a member of Task Force Jones.  In eight days he had missed death a dozen times.

An American tank destroyer rolled by, decks covered with infantrymen firing rifles.  "Climb on soldier," called its commander from the turret.  "This one's going out."

Banister ran after the vehicle.  Someone grabbed his hand and pulled him aboard.

"Know who you're riding with?" asked the man who had helped him, pointing at the commander. "Lieutenant Bill Rogers."

"Who's he?"

"Why, hell," said the other proudly, "he's Will Rogers' boy."

American tanks, half-tracks, trucks, jeeps, and men on foot had now turned to the north, hoping to cross the east-west highway from Vielsalm before they were caught from behind.

An hour later Rogers' tank destroyer reached the road.  Banister saw abazookaman digging a foxhole.  Dirty, unshaven, unpereturbed, exhausted, he could have posed for Mauldin's "Willie."  "Are you looking for a safe place?" he drawled.

"Yeah," said Banister.

"Well, buddy, just pull your vehicle behind me."  He hitched up his droopy pants.  "I'm the 82nd Airborne,  And this is as far as the bastards are going."


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« Reply #40 on: September 06, 2002, 05:28:09 PM »
I know some of the history snobs scoff at his work, but I kind of enjoy Stephen Ambrose's books.  I really liked his book on D-Day.  Though they are not as in depth as some of the other books out there, the y are veryreadable, something i look for when reading about the land war (some of that crap is very boring to me).  I really enjoyed the section about the 2nd Rangers and Point du Hoc.  Those guys were straight out studs.

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« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2002, 05:41:44 PM »
I think Ambrose's stuff is great.  He's a good writer, and all the recent hubub aside, he's brought the time period to a helluva lot more people than any other history writer, and anything that increases the general public's knowledge of WWII, or history in general, is a good, good thing.  Most people know dick.  As far as US involvement in north western Europe goes, I think he's a good source.

You should read the D-Day follow up - Citizen Soldiers - it is also a good read.


Oh yeah - thought of another 'popular' one that I read recently - Flags of Our Fathers - James Bradley.  A good book - the wrap up at the end hit me right... there... you know?

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« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2002, 05:43:54 PM »
Sweifurt-regensburg


excellent book..has accounts from all sides...

USAF members....German Civilians...German Luftwaffe...and the Slave laborese who were working in factories as they were bomed...

Saburo Sakai's book.....dam he is bad ass


Ploesti............


dam i cant remebr authors of Sweinfurt(I think it was Middlebrook...)..

And Ploesti...not sure who wrote it bu tthats was its name....

Love BiGB
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« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2002, 05:57:25 PM »
Kay has always complained about what to find, her live-in dweeb, Ozark for Christmas. ;)

Thanks guys, my list is complete! :)

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« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2002, 03:39:13 PM »
anyone ever read "doorknob five two"?