<S!> Saturday night CT'ers!

[Sundog]

Man,
I am still shaking from the fights we had tonight!!! Some of the best fights I have had in a long time. The one caveat is, between Vals (Which out turn Hurri's) and the 109E's that out run us, we have no defence in the Hurri. Hey, I'm entitled to a little whine to go with my cheese every now and then .

It really was a blast though. I have to go watch the film with trails on...super spaghetti! I actually lit up alot of 109's, but I think they already knew I was there ::: ping, ping, ping ::: "Vee know you are 'dere, quit szthrowing peebles zat us!"

Actually, I was surprised at how much damage the Hurricane could take. That is one tough bird. But the cannon hits still sounded Nasty.

BTW, weren't there any Martlets (F4F's) up there at the time? Or didn't Britain get those until later? Just curious

I'm bringing more Hurri's with me next time

[Taiaha]

I think the Martletts might have come in later.  They were deployed off carriers in defense of the Murmansk convoys, for example.  So Norway is probably a little early.

Allies already have those uber Dauntlesses (that's a nasty weapon in the right hands)--they don't need any additional firepower!

[ergRTC]

Speaking of uber vs the hurri.  Can the next ct setup be something like "the fall of the ijn".  Where we have f4u4s and f6fs, and the ijn are scraping the bottom of the barrel for a single land base of nikis and kis?  

I thought since we allied types have to suffer these off balance early war scenarios that occasionally a bone should be thrown where we could enjoy the advantage. Never seems to happen.  Did the war ever end?  Did somebody win?  Did the US navy ever fly?  Did the F6f ever exist?  

As far as the limited planeset of the pacific.  whatever.  The ki-84 and nik2 suffered from terrible materials and construction, so missing them isnt all too terrible.  If we have to suffer through a week of a planeset where  somebody has to utter the line "Man those sbds are sure good fighters" then we deserve to have a late war spank the ijn scenario.

Now that is just a little concensus opinion of my squad (or mostly concensus).  I actually like the hurri 1 vs 109e4, but thats only cause those silly 109 pilots like to come down and turn fight with us.  If they all behaved the way they were supposed to, nobody would be flying in this setup.

[CIU]

I second that motion....

CIU

VF-27 Hellcats

[Löwe]

Hmm I've seen the same comment posted about the Val that didn't seem to bother you.
Yes you guys suffered so much last week, you had bombers that could fly higher than the only decent interceptor(FW-190A8), except for the 262 could operate. No problem realistic enough, you guys got Sabre to perk the 262 because you were so sure it would be abused, and wasn't it funny that the day it got perked the scores finally got changed too so nobody had any perks to spend on 262s . So basically you got to team the two largest CT squads together, in a mass B-17 formation, with P-51 escorts, up above 28K where the only thing going to get at you is a 109G10. Thats of course if the guy just goes with the clean plane, if he took the R6 cannon pakage or the rockets he was slowed enough to be nothing but Pony bait. Then if he did get near the bombers, all that defensive fire made short work of him. The you guys instead of being gracious wiinners post crap about how all the Axis guys better watch out for VF-27. Well your right, but while your beating your chest in victory remember, most setups you have an advantage in aircraft performance, and now your teaming up with 880 FAA you have a numbers advantage.
I see how hard you've had it and I do feel your pain.....................
roadkillE!
If you want a PTO with F6F's and Corsairs hell yeah why not!!
However you  want the Axis to have one base so you can have a cake walk?? LOL
Cmon Erg!!
I got an idea, lets do it just like you said, but lets not give the Axis any ammo, and lets chain the Axis planes to a pole so they can do anything but fly in a circle and let you kill them. Will that be enough for you?
You don't want to fly the Hurri against the 109E? Okay I don't really blame you, because to me it's like the A26M vs the F4F, I don't like it but what the hell I'll fly it. If I made a complint about it, you would reply what a great plane the A6m2 is!!
Well man I gotta tell you that Hurri I is a great plane, turns on a dime, and man can it take the punishment. also maybe next PTO when there are P-47s we should perk those because they fly higher faster and have much more firepower than our Zekes, and well thats not fair!!!
LOL give me a break, you know every now and then theres a set-up you don't have all the cards.
If you want a game you can win each and every time some box sims have a menu where you can actually have unlimited ammo, and the enemy can't hurt your plane. You know try flying Axis a month, then see if you still still think your post is valid. I can tell you one thing flying Axis you learn real quick how good your not.
I did in a damn hurry.  I'll admit the Axis have an advantage this week, but it's not a turkey shoot .In the meantime you seem to be totaly ignorant of the advantages you have most scenarios, and you want more advantages?
People play to win, that I understand, but winning with no competetion is not winning,, it's called masturbation.
So don't be a Jack off!!:rolleyes:

[HFMudd]

Can the next ct setup be something like "the fall of the ijn". Where we have f4u4s and f6fs, and the ijn are scraping the bottom of the barrel for a single land base of nikis and kis?

Been there done that.  The CHog was thrown in to "add some depth to the allied planeset" as I recall.

I actually like the hurri 1 vs 109e4, but thats only cause those silly 109 pilots like to come down and turn fight with us.

The VF-27th is a good bunch of sticks.  Were the situtation reversed I'm sure you would not make the mistake of blowing your E and getting caught low and slow.  So therefore it follows that the VF-27th will not blow their E and turn fight with the Nikis and Zekes in your proposed setup thus resulting in...

If they all behaved the way they were supposed to, nobody would be flying in this setup.

Nobody on the Axis side to play with.

That said, as long as the CT runs and I have an account I will spend some time there each week.  When I'm on I will continue to check the roster and switch to side with the lowest number regardless of the planeset.

[oboe]

Originally posted by ergRTC
Speaking of uber vs the hurri.  Can the next ct setup be something like "the fall of the ijn".  Where we have f4u4s and f6fs, and the ijn are scraping the bottom of the barrel for a single land base of nikis and kis?  

You are kidding, right?

[ergRTC]

Wow, you guys are sensitive.  It was a joke.  You are very perceptive oboe!

As far as advantage vs axis allied, you have got to be kidding me.  The 'spank the ijn' (didnt that tip you off to the joke?) scenario was just a little satire on the scenarios we get.

lowe dont you even dare pull that high horse crap! You would whine along with the rest of us when it was just our f6fs vs the luftwaffles when you were in the vf-27.  

Also, I dont know which world you fly in, but the a6m2 climbs, dives, and handles better than the f4f and yes is faster at almost every alt but on the absolute sea level.  Did I mention it climbs much much better? It also has cannons. not many shells, but the cannons are there.

As far as the 262 perks go, I thought you guys just stopped flying them because they were boring.  

The reason for this post?  What do the axis squads think this setup would look like like reversed?  You have 3 planes we have four.  But you have to choose planes that are slow, dont climb well, and cant carry more than 2k of eggs.
I dont even think the axis have them in the hangar, besides the val.  Lets say its the end of the war and you are straggling on the eastern front.  You only have the old 109f4s, and 190a8s but the russians have yak9us and la7s.

This is a historical match up, thats why i personnally dont mind it (others do).  The hurri is also like a go-cart with guns and a bad motor (fun fun fun just dont try to race it).

Here is my suggestion of a match up equal to this one, but reversed and later in the war, and where I like to fight.  I would like to hear what you guys think would be equivelant to the current ct setup.

Pacific: Mainland japan (allied only have carriers and maybe a couple of land bases)
allied:
f6f
f4f
f4u of all models even the f4u4
fm2
tbm
sbd

axis:
a6m2
a6m5b
nik2 land
ki-61 land
ki-67
vals

Hows that sound?  Sounds good to me.

[Löwe]

Hell I like the LW vs the USN! When I was USN I did anyway, yeah the Dora gave us hell, but everything else was a good fight.
The reason we lost to the Luftwaffe was we made mistakes, once we ironed those out which was the time the Perdonia or however you spell it map came out we pretty much rocked on the LW in F6s, and F4U's.
Your late war set up sounds good to me. The Allies should have a couple of land bases to represent Iwo Jima, and Okinawa.
 If you want to know what world I fly in, come fly Axis for a while, I'm not talking a couple of hops, I'm talking commit to it for a month or so, you may change your opinion.
Don't give me grief about high horses, I'm not on one. I just caught your whine. Your pissed because you don't have an advantage this week, just like the last N Africa setup when you were tired of dodging 109fs. So don't try and pass it off as you were joking.

What would this set up look like in reverse?

Hmm the first Burma ?
Ij
A6m2
D3A's
Ki-67s

Allies
P-40B
F4F
Hurri
Boston

 Or maybe the Solomons?
Ij
A6m2
D3A
Ki67

Allies
P-40E
F4F
Sbd
Tbf
Boston

Yes I don't like the a6m2 I make no bones about it, to me the F4F is an all around better plane. That's my opinion, and yes if your thinking I suck in it your right.
Oh yeah the 262 is boring for me but the guys wanting one that maybe could have helped couldnt get them.
Your turn Erg fire away!

[CIU]

HOLY CRAP Lowe! I thought it was a joke..  Whos squeakin? I personally like almost all of the setups (with the except of that russian thing...)... I feel like the toilet exploded underneath me....

I wasnt beating my chest... I got no chest to beat.

CIU

VF-27 Hellcats.

[-wrongway-]

What Lowe said!!!!!!

I am new to AH and I have had a very rude but not surprised awakining with the German Iron and IJN/A aircraft flight models.

The 109s (read between the lines please) wont do anything and can barely out climb the "slow" Hurri. The Val turns like a zeke but yet can barely out turn the spit and Hurri. In the main arena I had a very hard time out turning the F4F, spit and Hurri in the A6M.

I think it is rather funny that you allied dweebs are laughing at some of these 109 pilots for turn fighting with you as a matter of fact when it comes time for the late plane sets, I caint find anyone to turn fight me in a zeke. All you P-51 etc drivers B&Z. At least us 109 guys will try to give you a fight even though we know if we turn we will die. Not only that but I have discovered that the German Iron caint really even out climb, dive, turn any damn thing in AH on an equal plane set.

Correct me if I am wrong but were the hell is the A6M3, and 109E, better yet the KI-84 and KI-45? Does the 109E not turn very well? I have yet to get anyone off my six while flying a 109. Grant it I suck with G-Iron anyway.

I dont think I will repeat myself so go to the AGW board and search my posts and replys on this matter for the past four years under --ww--.
I made my points as well as an bellybutton out of myself many many times.
Cheers!!!!!

[Karnak]

Hopefully we'll get the Ki-84-Ia next version.  That'll significantly lower the amount of room the Allies have to screw up in and still live.

The Japanese built 3,500 Ki-84s, of wich more than 3,000 were Ki-84-Ias.  It was in service before the P-51D, and the initial batches were reasonably reliable.

Hell, the Allies don't have to deal with mechanical problems on the POS P-40s in the early war setups, why should the Japanese have to deal with mechanical problems on the Ki-84 is late war setups?

(There are examples of P-40 missions where 50% of the P-40s didn't make it to the mission area due to malfuncioning engines.  A6M2s on the other hand were very reliable aircraft)

[WildBlue]

Lol, none of it really matters to me anymore I guess... since I already gave up and quit the game a couple weeks ago .

Maybe I'll make it back in soon... maybe in two weeks, lol maybe...

[Oleg]

Originally posted by Löwe
... you guys got Sabre to perk the 262 because you were so sure it would be abused, and wasn't it funny that the day it got perked the scores finally got changed too so nobody had any perks to spend on 262s .

5 perks was collected in 2-3 sorties. Such cost is only a small handicap not more.

BTW, I do not like current setup

[HiJack]

So the worm turns huh LOwe? hehe You know how it is dont try to fool me I saw you drinkin stag beer at the con.  Thaks for the Two best squads comment, I gusess 3 88o piots make up a whole squad with the Hellcats, anyway guess we are doin our job if we are pissing you off lol, think you told me once that is what you are suppose to do,screw with the opponents, hey are we having fun yet?  I am hoipe you are too! By the way Blue dont quit just leave the dark side, thought youliked the Zeke and Zero you always kicked my butt in it!  Whewwweeee what a party, break out the beer!