Author Topic: Are you skilled, or are you just a gamer? (Read 461 times)

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 20, 2002, 02:51:49 AM »

Running to ur wingman friendly gang or flying spitfires is gamey to

But in fact orders for air arty where not to fire on dogfights (where friendly fighters flew).

Air arty just shouldn't shoot through hangars on gv's i think but always shoot at planes first.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #16 on:** October 20, 2002, 10:07:27 AM »

I find it ironic that all the fan bois won't speak up in this thread. I guess they're admitting that they are ack running lamer gaming loser gameyheads!!!@!!! Failure to vote is a tacit vote for B and for all gamey behavior.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Mathman · « **Reply #17 on:** October 20, 2002, 10:12:59 AM »

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Originally posted by moose
I'm sure Pyro would be happy to lead you to the pool anytime there Urchin

It would have to be Pyro, because we all know Moose couldn't find the pool or he would take you to the one in the wrong hotel.

Midnight · « **Reply #18 on:** October 20, 2002, 04:32:01 PM »

B.

How would you suggest this be fixed? I guess you never ran to AA either, right?

You can be shot down by your own AA. Not a very high pertentage, but it does happen.

What's wrong? You get shot down by AA trying to catch my running Mustang?

poopster · « **Reply #19 on:** October 20, 2002, 04:58:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
ack running lamer gaming loser gameyheads!!!@!!!

Waaaaay too many adjectives in that sentence there Mister...

..have a seat in the patrol car

nopoop
Board adjective police

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #20 on:** October 20, 2002, 08:24:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Midnight
What's wrong? You get shot down by AA trying to catch my running Mustang?

No, actually I was making a hyperbolic play on the foaming at the mouth I've seen you doing over the "gaming" of "unrealistic" engine management in AH.

Engine cutting is gamey, for sure, but no more so than running and hiding in ack -- a gamey and unrealistic tactic that I'm fully aware you and other "simmers" perform anyway.

So the question then becomes... why the selective concern about realism and gaminess? And wouldn't the fact that you just admitted to ack running also make YOU a gamer?

Funny how you now sound just like Vulcan did in your thread.

-- Todd/Leviathn

poopster · « **Reply #21 on:** October 20, 2002, 09:41:10 PM »

Not a slouch flying that Golly-gee Spit, he'll cut you up on the boards too

Best out of three, Trivia Pursuit..

Toss the coin for first up...

Midnight · « **Reply #22 on:** October 20, 2002, 11:00:26 PM »

I guess the answer there is yes and no...

I do run to AA if I get in trouble. I also agree that AA should not be as leathal as it has proven to be, especially against fast moving A/C.

I suppose it is gaming it, but at the same time, one would think that if a freindly plane were being pursued by a bandit near an AA gun, the AA gun would try to shoot down the bandit.

I do think the AH AA guns are too acurate, and I would ask HTC to make them more random and not able to traverse and change elevation instantly either. The current model allows a gun to swing 180 degrees instantly, which is why flying directly over one usually means a hit in the tail.

I whined about it before, so to be fair.. HT, please change the AA guns so they must traverse and change elevation like a real gun and not have instant aiming whenever they want.

Beegerite · « **Reply #23 on:** October 20, 2002, 11:07:41 PM »

I would vote A if I were still flying AH but since I realized a long time ago that anyone who wants more re-enactment than gaming isn't going to be happy in AH, I gritted my teeth and forced myself to look elsewhere. Guess what? There are sims out there where kill shooter and all those other realism killing goodies are turned off and where you'll swear you're on a real battlefield. Only problem is that we're so damn addicted (psychologically) to these games that we give them too much power over ourselves and we're afraid to look for what we like anywhere else. Instead we continue to try to piss up a rope by trying to force others to like what we like and the only thing we get is the monicker "whiner".

Happy as a clam elsewhere but still waiting for 1.11 to see if it's to my liking. If not I'll just cancell my account.

Beeg

hazed- · « **Reply #24 on:** October 21, 2002, 02:59:16 AM »

If a player just had a decent dogfight and ends up low and slow and the winner, then some other guy turns up with a huge advantage and chases sai player I consider it ok for them to use whatever method is available to escape, including trying to dive and run , running to friendly base, running to friendly aircraft etc.

BUT if a player WITH advantage attacks, then messes up, then when chased runs like a schoolgirl to his ack they are a 100% certifiable dweeb.

Also anyone who runs further than 25 miles to ack from any higher height than 5k are DWEEBS. Theres no need for it, no matter what they are flying(fighter of course). you can use your BRAINS and try to outwit your opponent.If you fail YOU WILL LEARN and next time get better at it.

So i guess my vote is A. If flak bursts do indeed hurt all involved then why dont we have a wider spread of fire so the guy trying to use the flak to escape ends up getting hit just as often?

even better just add a 'proximity kill' score so we can see who the dweebs are?

straffo · « **Reply #25 on:** October 21, 2002, 03:28:29 AM »

Explain me how in a typhoon I can do anything else than running if I screwed ?

out-turning my opponent ?

out-climbing him ?

out-rolling him ?

out-diving him ? (should work ... but I'm on desk already)

Btw if I feel the need to protect my precious virtual life I'll use all the trick I can (including my own ack) so I'm a gamer

I do also love the people who have from time to time called me "ack runner" but about 100% of the time the same people where using their CV as a mobile Ack umbrella ...

john9001 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 21, 2002, 03:42:41 AM »

know what i really hate? when i'm on finale trying to land a damaged plane and some vulcher ignores all the other planes and shoots me when i'm low an slow an 50 ft off the runway, yeah , lotta skill there buckaroo banzi..........""woo woo check my k/d i'm soo good""

Hristo · « **Reply #27 on:** October 21, 2002, 05:28:16 AM »

B

so fun to ack drag the Lame-7 & toejamfire combos

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #28 on:** October 21, 2002, 07:06:21 AM »

I wonder how long before everyone realizes that this thread wasn't really about ack running or ack modelling in AH at all.

-- Todd/Leviathn

hblair · « **Reply #29 on:** October 21, 2002, 08:47:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Midnight
I guess the answer there is yes and no...

I do run to AA if I get in trouble. I also agree that AA should not be as leathal as it has proven to be, especially against fast moving A/C.

I suppose it is gaming it, but at the same time, one would think that if a freindly plane were being pursued by a bandit near an AA gun, the AA gun would try to shoot down the bandit.

Leviathn, that was quite a snare you set there.