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Offline beast

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« on: October 27, 2002, 02:26:22 AM »
at work. All in favor say I.

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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2002, 02:30:43 AM »
Of course.

Also, employers should be allowed to mount security cameras in employees homes, to ensure nothing undesireable going on, and mount GPS trackers in employees cars, to make sure nobody is goofing off or possibly conspiring with a rival company.  Maybe GPS tracker implants, for employeees AND thier family....

Or maybe it's just none of thier f**king business.

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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2002, 02:33:42 AM »
Monitoring. You mean like going through your email address books and etc... No way thats the end or was it already. Whatever, never the less :) Yes to mandatory drug testing.

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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2002, 03:18:39 AM »
I am for mandatory drug testing at work. I of course include not only home improvement stores, auto parts stores, etc, but also:
The President and his cabinet members
All members of the Congress
All members of the Senate
All members of the Supreme Court
All members of the Police
All members of Fire Depts
All members of the military.
All lawyers
All doctors
All nurses
All pilots
All flight attendants
All teachers
All members of the media

All I can think of at the moment.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2002, 03:19:44 AM »
Yeah who needs that silly right to privacy thingie.

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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2002, 03:32:35 AM »
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Yeah who needs that silly right to privacy thingie.


I think it might impact how a pilot flies, how a President makes decisions, how a police officer fires his weapon, how a supreme court justice might rule, how a doctor might operate, etc.
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2002, 03:39:42 AM »
But if DRip was to listen to Rush Limbaugh on shrooms, this Monday morning on the OT forum might just be over the top interesting, not just a unclever onslaught repost of CNN.com topics.

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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2002, 04:04:26 AM »
I actually kind of like some of the posts Rip does. He seems like a decent family man. Kinda boring if everyone had the same outlook and opinion, don't you think? I can appreciate a difference of opinion and respect those of opinions different than my own.
Just out of curiousity creamo, why do you seem obsessed with Rip and what he posts? Can't you just ignore his posts? If not, how about squelching him? You might be happier that way as it seems you want to b**ch about him. Not flaming you mind you, just curious. Did he actually ever do you wrong?
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2002, 04:13:05 AM »
I'd say yes in certain cases - where someone's job has a direct impact on the safety of others.

Airline pilots for example - I know a bunch of them. Every one that I know is a great guy, total professional when it comes to work, etc. Heck, most of them won't have a beer or two with dinner, even if they aren't flying until the next day and would be well within FAA guidlines, etc.

But for every 999, if there's 1 who is an irresponsible P.O.S. - the 'right to privacy' of the entire 1000 isn't worth the 200+ innocents killed when that 1 screws up. At least it isn't a worthwhile tradeoff to me.

I get tested for drugs due to my job (military). I don't have any problem with it.

If you work a register at Home Depot then I don't care if you succumb to refer madness however.

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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2002, 04:36:13 AM »
I actually kind of like some of the posts Rip does.

What % of those 14,000 posts is "some"?

He seems like a decent family man.

Certainly he is. And a right wing Republican pro gun hunter like me. This is a BBS you tool, all in fun. I like to goof on the astronaut, kung fu specialist, race car driver in training,  bullet dodger, wife beater hero, engineer,  management specialist that automates his job to the point the union ought to be disbannded, master of all topics. He spends 4 hours a day, 5,000 posts a year pushing it, I just laugh and respond accordingly.  

Kinda boring if everyone had the same outlook and opinion, don't you think?

The basis for every fun discussion interaction of people, be it sports, opinions, or politics. Your a visionary.

I can appreciate a difference of opinion and respect those of opinions different than my own.

Hi Jesus.

Just out of curiousity creamo, why do you seem obsessed with Rip and what he posts? Can't you just ignore his posts? If not, how about squelching him? You might be happier that way as it seems you want to b**ch about him.

It is impossible, he makes up a large percentage of posts here, and I find them highly entertaining. For reasons other than you, but still.

Not flaming you mind you, just curious.

I'm as sensative a Laz2. I cry at night, but Funkys friends hold me.

Did he actually ever do you wrong?

Nope, not really. His personal emails after I tweak him to death push the line, but I don't really care. Telling my wife  she is 'not a woman' and 'poor' is  a small issue. She wondered what it was all about, I said don't worry, it's a old sorry fool. She said OK, and went on with her day.

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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2002, 08:01:19 AM »
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I get tested for drugs due to my job (military). I don't have any problem with it.

 


  Only problem I have with it is I've never seen or heard of higher than an 0-5 being tested.
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2002, 08:10:41 AM »
I could pass a drug test any day of the year, so it really doesn't affect me, but I don't see why it's necessary.  Testing positive for a drug and being intoxicated at work aren't necessarily the same thing.  Why is it an employer's business if you smoked a joint last night in your home, if you're sober at work?


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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2002, 08:22:32 AM »
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and mount GPS trackers in employees cars,


almost there, at the moment the federal government requires on certain fishing vessels transponders that transmit position, course, speed and ID of these fishing vessels.  NE region has them and soon the south atlantic area will too.  Instead of making funds available for enforcement to do their job they make the fisherman buy these things.  Another reason I hear is search and rescue however they are already required to mount an Emergency Position Indication Radio Beacon that only transmits when triggered buy the ship sinking or manual activation.

I figure it only a matter of time before our cars have them this way we won't need the police to clock you on radar it will just transmit your speed and a ticket will be mailed to your house.

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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2002, 08:58:00 AM »
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  Only problem I have with it is I've never seen or heard of higher than an 0-5 being tested.


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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2002, 09:02:45 AM »
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I don't think I'd be in favor of mandatory drug testing for everybody in all lines of work ... that would be a huge waste of money.  Drug use on most jobs usually becomes evident all by itself.
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