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Offline Thrawn

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« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2002, 01:07:43 PM »
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Can't speak for all liberals, but I don't support any religious right,  wether they are Christian, Jew or Muslim.

There are plenty of followers of these religions that are tolerant people.  They go about worshiping thier God without trying to impose their religious beliefs on others.  And as long as that is the case then I don't see a problem.  It's when they go around diddlying with other peoples lives that a problem occures. "

Quoting myself from the Farrakhan thread.
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« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2002, 01:15:42 PM »
So you are equally bigoted towards all religions?

:)

j/k I understand what you are saying.
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« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2002, 01:26:05 PM »
Thrawn,

The incident(s) I'm refering to apparently happened in the 1960's and 1970's where YOUR government forceably took Indian (feathers..not Dots) babys from thier mothers where they where to be "re-educated" and "civilized."  Thousands where taken and many..many of them where abused while in the care of YOUR government.  We're not talking about 1860's here...we're talking 1960's and 1970's!!!!!  Apparently your government has officialy recoginzed it and are in discussions for reperations for the survivors.  I heard this on NPR in the US...no link but I'll look for one...DON'T THROW STONES FROM A GLASS HOUSE BRO......
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« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2002, 01:30:31 PM »
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no link but I'll look for one...DON'T THROW STONES FROM A GLASS HOUSE BRO......


No need, I aware of the incident you speak of.  I thought you might be referring to something more recent.  Yes my government has done some horrific things.  No, there is no excuse or justification for these things.

I don't see what this has to do with the issue at hand though.
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« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2002, 02:00:35 PM »
The point is...is that many of you Canuks are snooty left wingers that often look down at my American bros.  You think that we are all simple right wingers or something.  Dude, I'm anything but simple.  I've lived in Saudi Aribia, Iran, Egypt and many other Islamic country's.  So when I say Islam is Evil and Should be Stamped Out-please don't dismiss me as a dumb American.  You dumb Canuks often say on these boards that Canada is the least hated country on earth...hell your country is maybe the most divided on earth.  Just ask your French Speaking "brothers" or your Indian friends that hate your guts.  Didn't you guys a have a small war with some Indians in th 1970's.  Stop exploiting Indian Babys and Free Quebec...........
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« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2002, 03:08:01 PM »
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Thrawn, a picture is worth a thousand words...



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BAN HIM!


28, I wasn't arguing with people in this thread because they're were Yanks.  Hell there are conservative Canadians I disagree with no this BSS and liberal Americans I agree with.  For that matter, I've agreed with conservatives of both countries and disagred with liberals from both countries.

It was because I thought thier statements were unsupportable that I argued with them.  I also thought their statements were very dangerous.  I don't think that conservatives a innately stuipid, or even stupid as a group of people.  To do so would be to guitly of the same poor thinking and hypocracy which is the subject of my posts.

PS: Just so I'm not to much of a hypocrit, I would like poing out that I have been and can be a hypocrit.
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« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2002, 03:25:18 PM »
of course if this happened in 1983 you'd all be singing the praises of the brave rebels fighting the mean old ussr....:rolleyes:
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« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2002, 03:28:27 PM »
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of course if this happened in 1983 you'd all be singing the praises of the brave rebels fighting the mean old ussr....:rolleyes:


maybe, but its not 1983

if it were 1944, we'd be bombing Berlin too...

mrfish - good to see you on the board again - hope all its well
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« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2002, 03:40:40 PM »
lol yeah eagler and if it were 1802 or whatever pocohontas could give me a back rub

you too btw :)

i guess my thing is this - i absolutely hate the chechans because they have been protrayed to me as evil awful moslem bad guys but i really don't know dick about their situation.

were they a part of russia that wanted to break off all of a sudden or were they some little country that was swallowed up by the soviet juggernaut in it's imperialist days that wants to get back to being it's own country? which is it really - i can't say i know for sure.

if it were 1983 i know i'd be routing for the brave chechan "freedom fighters" like grandpa reagan would surely tell me to, but now i am cheering their death-

so, there's only one truth for this situation so what is it? i admit i don't know and i wish the government would spend a little time educating me on the background and letting me come to my own conclusion rather than supplying me with some belief.

ps- i don't think the berlin thing works because their situation was different then - in this case i believe the chechans had a similar situation in '83 as they do now - if not how is it different?
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« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2002, 03:48:20 PM »
Apparently Russia and Chechnya have been fighting this civil war on and off for centuries.
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« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2002, 01:55:57 AM »
Grab your body Armor, your blessings from the Pope,call the Spaniards ,and let's part-y like it's 1199!!! To the holy city!!!
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« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2002, 02:19:40 AM »
Glasses I'll play the Pope, you can be the Spaniards, Mietla has a suit of armor, Let's Roll!
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« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2002, 02:38:53 AM »
Curval, I was being ironic - i.e. by lumping together all Muslims into one pigeon-hole, and declaring them enemies of all that is good and true, we risk becoming a westernized mirror image of the extremist Islamic fringe. That's why I used a term commonly coined by the Islamic fundamentalists, 'Infidel'.

Understand? :D
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« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2002, 03:03:48 AM »
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Glasses I'll play the Pope, you can be the Spaniards, Mietla has a suit of armor, Let's Roll!


Woohoo!!! :D
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This synopsis seems particularly apt :)
« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2002, 07:58:17 AM »
The Russian-Chechen conflicts

There's two pages, Premodern and Modern. It's oversimplified, of course, but note the "oil connection".  :)
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