Author Topic: Games have rules! Imagine if this were tried in Aces High (Read 1894 times)

Toad · « **Reply #45 on:** November 25, 2002, 11:44:29 AM »

Hooked me?

You made an intentionally misleading or totally ill-informed statement to see if I would point out your error?

Gee. I've been doing that since you've been posting in the O-Club. Nothing new there.

CC, Rude. Maybe we better call 1-800- Get-Nanny

SLO · « **Reply #46 on:** November 25, 2002, 12:09:42 PM »

damn you guys just won't stop will ya's....

beetle stop talking or posting facts about the U.S.

as you see LAZ doesn't like em...even if they are true.....he's an american with an opinion....he won't stop till you say America WON ww2:D (its there vision of things)

to give you an idea...most americans hate the French....but yet the French where the 1st to reconize america as an independent country....giving them the strenght and assurances to defy the English. In those days France was Englands nemesis.

1 of america's best known symbols of freedom they like so much was a GIFT from the French. And yet the french suck if you ask LAZ.

here's another vision for laz......

If the Inspections do not go right with Irak....america will need friends.....

those friends are going to fight SIDE by SIDE...and maybe DIE side by side.

just remember that:)

beet1e · « **Reply #47 on:** November 25, 2002, 12:24:44 PM »

Mr. Toad. I wish that instead of all this mutual masturbation, you would actually have replied to what I said at 09:05 this morning. I quote one guy who clearly holds his virtual countrymen in contempt, and yet I'm the only one to be appalled. Yes, you do some good hooks sometimes, but if the catch from my sig. was any heavier, the line would snap.

Maybe the absence of a lucid reply to what I said at 09:05 this morning is actually the reply itself.

Geez, things are worse than I thought.

Swoopy - contrary to what the pro-gun folks would have you believe, I do have numerous friends in the US. To give you some idea, I did a 30 day trip starting in CA, continuing in CO and finishing in NY - and I only had to hotel it on 9 nights out of 30. I lived there for a total of about 3 years. I believed the pro-gun stuff as being part of American life - and half expected to see guys coming to work with a gun in a holster, but none ever did. At that time (1980) the crime in the Chicago housing project known as Cabrini Greeen became so bad (11 murders in 9 weeks in that one housing project) that the then mayor, Jane Byrne, decided to move in. And a columnist in the Chicago Sun Times produced a series of articles about gun crime, and stats. The one I remember was the homicide rate by guns - 10552 that year I think it was. And I was shocked and appalled. The rest you know. And I am disturbed by it, just as the whole world was disturbed by the tragedy of 11th Sept., 2001 - apart from Islamic extremists, of course. Still, you're a Yorkshireman (?) and Yorkshiremen are usually right...

Animal · « **Reply #48 on:** November 25, 2002, 12:31:14 PM »

Christ beetle can you at least uncheck the 'show signature' option so we dont have to scroll down forever trying to skip it over and over again?

lazs2 · « **Reply #49 on:** November 25, 2002, 12:35:50 PM »

slo.... when have i ever said anything about the U.S. winning WWII... singlehandedly or otherwise? when have I ever said that I hated the french? when have I ever said anything about guns that wasn't backed up by fact? Are you stupid or a liar or do you just have me mixed up with someone else?
lazs

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #50 on:** November 25, 2002, 12:38:25 PM »

Guns are a means of population control.

Humans are just like any other wild animal.. too dumb to stop breeding, over populates, food/water supply diminish, countdown to extinction commences.
-SW

SLO · « **Reply #51 on:** November 25, 2002, 12:45:26 PM »

woow there laz...calm down:rolleyes:

I was just giving an over all view...relax your panties they seem bunched up:D

j/k bud

next time I'll use some other name, sowwy:(

beet1e · « **Reply #52 on:** November 25, 2002, 12:48:51 PM »

SLO!

J'avais manqé ta poste la première fois. Tu as raison, mon ami. Content de te voir par ici.

lazs2 · « **Reply #53 on:** November 25, 2002, 12:54:31 PM »

sooo... slo... which is it then? have me mixed up with someone else or stupid or a liar? or maybe you were just generalizing? Maybe I am the generic boogey man to you? Perhaps if you had said something truthful you wouldn't have to explain? The only thing I recognized in your entire post was my handle and you used it a lot... You attributed things to me that weren't true... how should I take that?
lazs

SLO · « **Reply #54 on:** November 25, 2002, 12:59:31 PM »

I'm stupid, mixed up and a liar.....and yes I was generalizing.

get over it I said I was sorry.

looks like i touched a sensitive chord:D

salut beet:p

Toad · « **Reply #55 on:** November 25, 2002, 02:03:35 PM »

This is the quote to which you refer?

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If I bring ordinance to a field, I am gonna drop it.

I don't care about "your" war.

1. Mutual masturbation? I'm certain there's no sound of "one hand clapping" in my computer room. Of course, what you do in the privacy of your home doesn't concern me in the least.

2.

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I quote one guy who clearly holds his virtual countrymen in contempt, and yet I'm the only one to be appalled.

Well, to a normal person that occasionally does a little self-evaluation, this would probably raise a red flag. Apparently, the fact that you are indeed the only one hasn't caused any introspection.

To reassure you, I am not appalled in the least. In fact, I totally understand his sentiment. It's his choice after all.

This isn't some highly structured game like... say bridge for instance.

You do find it irritating when folks don't conform to your vision of perfection, don't you?

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The one I remember was the homicide rate by guns - 10552 that year I think it was. And I was shocked and appalled.... And I am disturbed by it, ...[/B]

However, it appears that you're not too shocked, appalled or cocerned about the England/Wales/Scotland homicide rate by "sharp weapons". Which, in '97 was ~3X that of gun homicide and remained almost exactly there in the '00-'01 Home Office report.

So you cheerfully engage in leaning over the back yard fence and lecturing, insulting and demeaning the US for it's shocking and appalling gun homicide rate while you totally ignore your own shocking and appalling sharp instrument homicide rate which is 3X your gun homicide rate.

But, like most common scolds, it would appear you don't like it when others point out failings on your side of the fence.

beet1e · « **Reply #56 on:** November 25, 2002, 02:57:39 PM »

Well Mr. Toad,

I think many people were angry - if you read that "are you deaf" thread. But if you think that all is roses, that's YOUR choice. On this matter, we have nothing further to discuss.

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So you cheerfully engage in leaning over the back yard fence and lecturing, insulting and demeaning the US for it's shocking and appalling gun homicide rate while you totally ignore your own shocking and appalling sharp instrument homicide rate which is 3X your gun homicide rate.

- which is currently about one tenth of the US firearms related homicide rate.

tomato · « **Reply #57 on:** November 25, 2002, 03:00:12 PM »

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Originally posted by mrfish
i don't see how everyone bowing and excusing and pleasing and asking if it's ok to shoot each other down makes a better model of war.

the fact that this game leaves so many people feeling angry and violated and huffy suggests to me that it's modeling war pretty well.

LOL! Bods on the same side, angry and huffy with each other is OK? Surest way for the opposition to clean up, surely? Anyway, imagine if the French mucked up an Iraq offensive organised by Bush - while declaring, "I don't care about "your" war"!

It seems to me that bods on the same side in war need to have similar objectives - if they stand any chance of achieving them. Allied forces might differ in overall objective, but a real war without co-operation of allies is just plain daft! Didn't the Russians find that out when they fought the Germans? Unfocused, untrained rabble versus an organised, like-goaled army?

Perhaps the mission arena will be best for all - those who don't like it, don't have to use it. Yes?

Tomato

swoopy · « **Reply #58 on:** November 25, 2002, 03:39:26 PM »

I am Dowding, using Swoopy's computer. He is my brother. I have temporarily moved back in with my parents while my new apartment is built to save money. My computer has no internet connect and I can't remember my 'Dowding' password, so 'm stuck with nicking his computer or using 'Dowding (Work)'.

We are both Yorkshiremen and always right.

Toad - George III was a nutcase and as your source states, an abberation in the British monarchy's timeline. Prior to him, the evolution of Parliamentary democracy had long since been set in motion. My original statements still stands.

BTW, the period 1799-1815 could be regarded as one of Britain's finest hours - the destruction of Napolean's fleets, his armies and the liberation of Spain.

Toad · « **Reply #59 on:** November 25, 2002, 11:16:29 PM »

Dowd/Swoop

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Not really Toad. We had a constitutional monarch in place long before the US was even an established colony. I believe the differences the colonists had, were with British government policy.

So you're making the case that the split between the colonies and the Crown that led to the American Revolution can be laid at the feet of Parliament rather than G3?

Is that your point?

My point is that your King at the time, G3, essentially got what he demanded from his Ministries and his Parliament. Exercising his lofty kingship unhindered as it were.

Turned out us poor colonials found a way we liked better....... and still do. And eventually, your Kings and Queens became total figureheads... as they shoud be, bless 'em....... But it took quite a while, didn't it?