A Scout is Brave, Loyal, Trustworthy...

[H. Godwineson]

Robert King, a 50 year old Florida Boy Scout leader has been charged with exposing himself to five young scouts and with showing them gay pornographic photographs.  The incidents occurred at King's home, where he had invited the five young boys, between the ages of 10 and 13, to help him decorate a Christmas float.

Do you guys remember the hullabaloo that erupted a couple of years ago when the Boy Scouts refused to change their rules to allow gays to serve as Scout Masters.  In one television special on the subject two mothers who were interviewed vowed to pull their young (very young) sons out of the scouts because of their "bias" against gays.

I wondered at the time if it was possible that these mothers were so afraid of being labeled politically incorrect that they were willing to ignore the risks to their children?  Do they put their brains in neutral when discussing matters of this nature?

While King is married, I suspect he may be a closet homosexual because of the nature of the photographs that he showed to these children.


What are your thoughts?

Regards, Shuckins

[GtoRA2]

The boy scouts are a private organization.

Does this really count as a gay man causing problems though?


This is more like child molestation.  Just cause you gay does not mean your going to push your gayness on kids?

[Ripsnort]

Personally, I don't think Men should be allowed in a Girls High school shower room, nor do I believe that Gay men should be involved in the Boy Scouts.

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Personally, I don't think Men should be allowed in a Girls High school shower room, nor do I believe that Gay men should be involved in the Boy Scouts.

LOL... did your scout master ever see you naked Rip? Mine sure as hell didn't!

Are you saying that a man cannot coach High School Girls Basketball? I think you failed to think this one through.

[gofaster]

There are male coaches for girls' high school sports, usually because the men have a particular background in the sport, such as years of experience or accomplishment in the sport - they literally are "the best man for the job."

But would you want a male to be a Girl Scout troop master?  Would you want a woman to be a Boy Scout troop master?  The nature of these activities - activities where boys learn to be men - almost require a same-sex leadership role.  Girls learn to be empowered as a woman by learning from a woman.

Its not about being homophobic, its about being the best man for the job - the job of teaching boys to be men and girls to be women.

[Ripsnort]

Okay, A girl leading boy scouts is not my idea of Boy scout leadership.  Neither is a gay IMO. I don't have a problem with Gay men, I just have a problem with them with my kids

[gofaster]

Not even Sigourney Weaver should lead a Boy Scout troop into the wilderness.  Well, maybe the older boys wouldn't mind so much.

Then again, would you want Charles Nelson Reiley to guide your young daughters into their blossoming womanhood?

[midnight Target]

My guess is that about 10% of you had scoutmasters that were gay.

And teachers and coaches and mentors and community leaders. I would also guess that this made absolutely no difference because you had no clue.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by midnight Target
My guess is that about 10% of you had scoutmasters that were gay.

And teachers and coaches and mentors and community leaders. I would also guess that this made absolutely no difference because you had no clue.

Sorry, didn't grow up in California :D

[Thrawn]

A paedophile is sexually attracted to children.  It has nothing to do with homosexuality or heterosexuality.

[texace]

Or Florida, for that matter...:D

[H. Godwineson]

At about the same time that the Gay Scout Master controversy was heating up the media, there was an incident involving a Scout Master here in the state of Arkansas.

It turns out he had been sexually molesting members of his troop for more than 20 years.  He played mind games with them and convinced them that these activities were not only not bad but were also something that they did not need to tell their parents.  So convincing was he that some of these former scouts allowed THEIR sons to enroll in his scout troop.

This event briefly made the national headlines.  Briefly.  The media was more interested in the case involving the young gay man who was beaten up and then tied to a fence post, eventually dieing of hypothermia.

Again, on some issues, it seems, people put their brains in neutral before rendering an opinion.

Regards, Shuckins

[H. Godwineson]

How would you classify a paedophile who molests only young boys?

Or a paedophile who molests only young girls?

Defenders of gay rights consistently draw a distinction between the paedophile and homosexuality.  But I fail to see a clear distinction.  Can we not just say that a paedophile who preys on the younger members of a single sex is a homosexual who prefers younger partners?  Or is that too insensitive?

Shuckins

[Thrawn]

Of course you can H. Godwinson.  The problem comes when people see the words homosexual and paedophile in the same sentence when it comes to child molestation.  Or only the word homosexual.

It's important for people to realise that paedophilia is the problem, not homosexuality.

[midnight Target]

This event briefly made the national headlines. Briefly. The media was more interested in the case involving the young gay man who was beaten up and then tied to a fence post, eventually dieing of hypothermia.

Kinda trivializing the fact that he suffered a fractured skull from a massive blow to the head which compressed the skull into his brain. He also had an injured brain stem, which controls the body's vital functions.