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Offline Flossy

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« on: December 08, 2002, 04:03:46 PM »
The logs are now up at:  http://www.webtreatz.com/tod/logs.asp  :)
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2002, 04:15:07 PM »
ty Flossy

Fastest CM on the wild west:) of europe;)


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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2002, 04:27:25 PM »
So when do we get to know the strategic effect of frame 1 if any ?
Or is that part of next weeks orders ?
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2002, 04:35:37 PM »
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ty Flossy

Fastest CM on the wild west:) of europe;)
LOL!  The thanks should really go to Gremlin with coming up with a system that allows CMs to produce the logs as soon as an event is finished!  :D
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2002, 04:36:32 PM »
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So when do we get to know the strategic effect of frame 1 if any ?
Or is that part of next weeks orders ?
I would imagine they will be part of next weeks orders after the detailed logs have been scrutinised!  ;)
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2002, 05:03:22 PM »
Im not worried aboud my credits here I just remember bouncing on some spits attacking our Ju88s Early in the Frame. Im certian I killed one. I remember Klem voicing that he was 600 behind me and Congrating me on the kill??. I have no film.


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edit: I may be totally wrong may have been the F4U's, though Now that I really think about it I remember chasing a Spit right to the deck Do prox crashes count?
« Last Edit: December 08, 2002, 05:09:38 PM by Furzy »
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2002, 05:33:24 PM »
Furzy,

I had a very detailed look through the raw logs.

Here, ill just copy and paste the interesting bits

12-08-02 14:29:40 iceMAW Kill Awarded Tilt Seafire Mk IIc 56 firebirds RAF
12-08-02 14:29:40 dawvgrid Assist Awarded Tilt iceMAW No. 272 Squadron "Whispering Death"
12-08-02 14:29:40 Furzy Bad Guy Damage Tilt 1 56 firebirds RAF


What this seems to say is that although you hit a spit (tilt) with one ping, icemaw and dawvgrid had obviously done lethal damage and he died just as you hit him (see it all happens in the same second).  So effectively he was actually dead when you hit him.  Lag stuff!!!

Bottom line is logs are correct.
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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2002, 05:54:31 PM »
rgr Grem Knew there was something weird there. I recall that spit falling to bits in front of me. Now looking back on the logs the Number of Assists do seem unusually low?

Furzy

edit : let it rest Its good enough :)
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2002, 06:55:53 PM »
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Now looking back on the logs the Number of Assists do seem unusually low?


rgr Furzy, they do, but thats what the logs say:)
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2002, 02:33:30 AM »
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Furzy,

I had a very detailed look through the raw logs.

Here, ill just copy and paste the interesting bits

12-08-02 14:29:40 iceMAW Kill Awarded Tilt Seafire Mk IIc 56 firebirds RAF
12-08-02 14:29:40 dawvgrid Assist Awarded Tilt iceMAW No. 272 Squadron "Whispering Death"
12-08-02 14:29:40 Furzy Bad Guy Damage Tilt 1 56 firebirds RAF


What this seems to say is that although you hit a spit (tilt) with one ping, icemaw and dawvgrid had obviously done lethal damage and he died just as you hit him (see it all happens in the same second).  So effectively he was actually dead when you hit him.  Lag stuff!!!

Bottom line is logs are correct.
Yep i pinged that spit real good,but with these guns :rolleyes: ,,,,but it was great fun,and he only got my aileron:)
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2002, 10:50:43 AM »
FOGOLD


14 :10 :23 ----- Departs From Field #44 in a F4U-1D

14:10:33 ----- Was Shot Down By Unknown Enemy.

14:10:36 ----- Departs From Field #44 in a F4U-1D

14:11:14 ----- Was Shot Down By Unknown Enemy.

14:11:18 ----- Departs From Field #44 in a F4U-1D

14:11:57 ----- Was Shot Down By Unknown Enemy.

14:12:00 ----- Departs From Field #44 in a F4U-1D

14:12:56 ----- Was Shot Down By Unknown Enemy.

14:12:59 ----- Departs From Field #44 in a F4U-1D

14:13:33 ----- Was Shot Down By Unknown Enemy.

14:13:37 ----- Departs From Field #44 in a F4U-1D

14:14:22 ----- Was Shot Down By Unknown Enemy.

14:14:25 ----- Departs From Field #44 in a F4U-1D

14:15:11 ----- Was Shot Down By Unknown Enemy.

14:15:13 ----- Departs From Field #44 in a F4U-1D

14:16:09 ----- Was Shot Down By Unknown Enemy.

14:16:13 ----- Departs From Field #44 in a F4U-1D

14:17:03 ----- Was Shot Down By Unknown Enemy.

14:17:08 ----- Departs From Field #44 in a F4U-1D

14:59:28 ----- Takes On Fuel/Ammo/Ord at Field #44.

15:00:49 ----- Was Shot Down By Unknown Enemy.

Pilot Totals: Kills 0; Assists 0; Objects 0; Deaths

It bears repeating. AndyH must have been sitting on a cloud having a right good ROFL.

Didn't get off carrier till ditched bombs. Couldn't master this rolling back on the deck thang - untill I had rearmed that is Tried to move left, rolled off back of carrrier! lol. Must go and practice taking off laden Hog


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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2002, 11:10:59 AM »
Hi Fogold,

This happens every time we have F4Us taking off from a carrier fully loaded. They are a squeak to get off the deck.

The other thing I noticed, it also happened in midway, is that the CM moves the CVs a couple of seconds before takeoff. The CV then turns itself just as everyone is trying to get off.

This would not have been helped by the very short waypoints that were set, and it would not let me add a new waypoint. I had to ask Tilt to command the ships later in the frame, no matter what I did it wouldn't allow me to submit the new waypoints.

In future could we have the CVs in position, and allow the Side CO to have them pointed in the right direction before we give the GO order.

PS where in Scotland are you, im in Livingston.
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2002, 12:25:19 PM »
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This happens every time we have F4Us taking off from a carrier fully loaded. They are a squeak to get off the deck.
Which is one reason why I left the fields open a bit longer than usual at the beginning of the frame.
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The other thing I noticed, it also happened in midway, is that the CM moves the CVs a couple of seconds before takeoff. The CV then turns itself just as everyone is trying to get off.
I left the placement of the CVs until the last minute before the start time so that anyone logging in on the wrong side would not see their positions before changing to their own side.... I presume you didn't want them to find the CVs too easily?  :)
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This would not have been helped by the very short waypoints that were set, and it would not let me add a new waypoint. I had to ask Tilt to command the ships later in the frame, no matter what I did it wouldn't allow me to submit the new waypoints.
Sorry, my fault the waypoints were so short, I only really had time to make sure they didnt start back towards where I had just moved them from!  I was hoping someone would take over and make any adjustments.  No idea why you weren't able to change the waypoints.... if you had let me know you were having a problem, I could have looked into it or made any changes myself.  Sorry....  :o
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In future could we have the CVs in position, and allow the Side CO to have them pointed in the right direction before we give the GO order.
Certainly, if you are willing to risk them being spotted as Axis pilots enter the arena...  ;)
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2002, 01:13:21 PM »
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I left the placement of the CVs until the last minute before the start time so that anyone logging in on the wrong side would not see their positions before changing to their own side


Understood, maybe we could disable side switching 5 minutes before takeoff.


Sorry, my fault the waypoints were so short, I only really had time to ...

Understood, I had the same problem.

 I was hoping someone would take over and make any adjustments.

Next time I will appoint squad COs to move their ships into position, and launch their squad when it has settled down. It is too much for one person to move 4 CVs into position in such a short time. Most squads launch as soon as the CM says GO GO GO but this should be avoided when taking off from a carrier.
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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2002, 01:29:33 PM »
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Understood, maybe we could disable side switching 5 minutes before takeoff.
Possibly.... I will need to check how, never done that before....  What about late arrivals, though?  Say someone arrives (on the wrong side) just before I disable side-switching - it would give them longer to study the map, presuming side-switching would be enabled again after the start?
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Next time I will appoint squad COs to move their ships into position, and launch their squad when it has settled down.
That may help.  Might get things right by Frame 3!  :)
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